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Old 11-17-2018, 07:40 PM
 
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I have never told anybody how they must live. After my family lost a house to a fire, one to a hurricane, and a another to a mudslide I understand being a slave to bunch stuff is confining. It is also destroying the planet and making people sick.
All destroyed homes are easily replaceable as long as the owner maintained proper homeowners insurance on their property. It does not destroy the planet or make people sick to own and enjoy wonderful properties and abundant material goods. It actually makes life better and more enjoyable to own and use lots of wonderful things. Family and friends come first of course, but next up is enjoying and owning the incredible material goods that we have designed and built for each other.

 
Old 11-17-2018, 09:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey (Europe Sep ‘19)
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If Europe is that wonderful, why are you still here?
In process of moving actually
 
Old 11-17-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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So, let me see if I get this straight?
It is acceptable for corporate stooges to take tax breaks, handouts and anything that will benefit their business, but politicians, who I might add, many are placed in DC by said corporations can refuse it?

Umm Hello?
No Pols taking it makes it impossible from both sides.
 
Old 11-17-2018, 10:12 PM
 
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They are doing their jobs, which is to extract as much value for shareholders and creditors as possible. It is the equivalent of getting as many on lifeboats as possible, knowing 100% cannot be saved.
Wasn't their job not go bankrupt? Well, they failed, therefore they shouldn't receive any bonuses. Bonuses are supposed to be a reward when a company accomplishes things or hits a target. Bankruptcy is neither an accomplishment or a target.
 
Old 11-17-2018, 10:21 PM
 
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Wasn't their job not go bankrupt? Well, they failed, therefore they shouldn't receive any bonuses. Bonuses are supposed to be a reward when a company accomplishes things or hits a target. Bankruptcy is neither an accomplishment or a target.
Maximizing creditor and/or remaining shareholder value is a target, too.
 
Old 11-17-2018, 10:36 PM
 
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Maximizing creditor and/or remaining shareholder value is a target, too.
And when a company declares bankruptcy, shareholder value decreases which I highly doubt is a target that Sears has set and therefore, the executives shouldn't get any bonuses.
 
Old 11-17-2018, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Reading this boils my heart and we live in a sickening world.
One big reason why European workers are blessed!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/busin...ses/index.html
The first sentence of the linked article needs correction to read: "Sears executives seek to steal $19 million for themselves, from the company's stockholders and employees. As it says, many laid-off workers fear they will no receive severance pay, as they should. They can hope that no Trump-appointed judge is hearing the executives case.
 
Old 11-17-2018, 10:44 PM
 
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If everyone had a choice to opt out of taxes, the wealthy would be hurt the most.
Not one cent of mine would go to the MIC or for shipping ports or for the interstate system.

It would bring global "free" trade to a crashing halt.
Yeah, the wealthy in under-developed, poor infrastructure, 3rd world nations are really hurting.
 
Old 11-17-2018, 10:58 PM
 
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All of my college professors were right wingers.
Where were you educated?
 
Old 11-17-2018, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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They want to keep their best performing Executives during the reorganization process. I understand that. But I'd can the bastard who thought it was a good idea to get rid of the catalog.
lol their "best performing executives"? Seems to me that their performance wasn't all that great since the company is bankrupt
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