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Old 11-18-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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So do you think the sanctions are going to work, will Iran stop opposing US hegemony in the region and bow down to Washington and the Saudi/Israeli alliance?
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So do you think the sanctions are going to work, will Iran stop opposing US hegemony in the region and bow down to Washington and the Saudi/Israeli alliance?
I don't see that these sanctions are anymore severe than in the past besides some countries including the US (Boeing) continue to trade. I just read where the Iraqi prime minister met with Iran and plan to increase trade which is already around $7B. Strangely Trump is attempting to penalize the countries that signed onto the Iran deal while giving out exemptions to other countries.


There was absolutely no benefit to us backing out of the Iran deal.
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Old 11-18-2018, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Note the attire, the mannerisms of the minister. Iran is a civilized, educated, nation more attuned to the west than the monarchic sheikhs of Saudi Arabia. We are on the wrong side here and have been for decades. It is time to rethink out mid-east strategy.
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Old 11-18-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I don't see that these sanctions are anymore severe than in the past besides some countries including the US (Boeing) continue to trade. I just read where the Iraqi prime minister met with Iran and plan to increase trade which is already around $7B. Strangely Trump is attempting to penalize the countries that signed onto the Iran deal while giving out exemptions to other countries.


There was absolutely no benefit to us backing out of the Iran deal.
We’ll see. I don’t want Iran to be destroyed by Trump, but America is powerful and the Israelis/Saudis want Iran destroyed badly.
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Old 11-18-2018, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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We’ll see. I don’t want Iran to be destroyed by Trump, but America is powerful and the Israelis/Saudis want Iran destroyed badly.

You can elect Hillary, Biden, Warren, Mother Teresa or the pope, but when the time comes, military conflict will be initiated.


Presidents have no control of Geo-Political Strategy.
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Old 11-18-2018, 02:56 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Note the attire, the mannerisms of the minister. Iran is a civilized, educated, nation more attuned to the west than the monarchic sheikhs of Saudi Arabia. We are on the wrong side here and have been for decades. It is time to rethink out mid-east strategy.

Personally, I'd prefer we take NO side and leave the countries of the region to settle their own differences, we have more than enough domestic issues to spend our time/$$$ on.
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Old 11-18-2018, 03:00 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You can elect Hillary, Biden, Warren, Mother Teresa or the pope, but when the time comes, military conflict will be initiated.


Presidents have no control of Geo-Political Strategy
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They have complete control of where to intervene and where not to. NOWHERE does the Constitution task us with policing the world.

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Old 11-18-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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We’ll see. I don’t want Iran to be destroyed by Trump, but America is powerful and the Israelis/Saudis want Iran destroyed badly.
China, Russia and the other countries are not going down the same path as the US, I believe most of them are still trading with Iraq. This is going to be the case with Trump and the likes of John Bolton for the next 2 years, our actions have given the Ayatollah and his Revolutionary Guard more power. Besides, why would they ever enter in an agreement with the US again when we reneged on our own agreement.
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