Are you concerned about global cooling?

[Arktikos]

No, but I'm concerned about global idiocy.

[Valhallian]

Originally Posted by Marc Paolella

So you’re just buying in to the Armageddon Hustle. The smart “scientists” said everything is going to get worse and worse unless we give them trillions of dollars to fix it. And you are just buying it. The wet areas will get wetter. The dry areas will get dryer. The storms will get worse. The ocean will come up like a plugged toilet and flood everyone and drown everyone and kill everyone. Unless we give the “smart” scientists and their cronies trillions and trillions. And you just buy it and buy it and believe it and believe it. Because the university-trained smart grant-spenders spent the money and concluded, surprise, that more money needs to be taken, more freedom needs to be taken, and we all have to give, give, and give. And you just buy it and buy it. Even when the IPCC reports are laced with non-climate bull$hit like gender equality, eradication of poverty, food security, and other leftist crap. And you just buy it and buy it and accept it on faith from the ”smart” university grant procurement machine. And then you have the nerve to offer filthy suffocating China as a model of climate responsibility and action. Guess what? I’m not buying it.

Ah so you're buying into the bury-my-head-in-the-sand hustle. It's astounding to me how the answer is staring you so obviously in the face, yet people like you choose to believe that climate change is simply a big big conspiracy among scientists who just want....grant money? That's seriously your story?

Do you really so happily lap up big oil propaganda? What have those companies done for you?

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Blind Cleric

No, but I'm concerned about global idiocy.

Global idiocy?

Not sure how it can be done but I say tax & regulate it!

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by atltechdude

It's also true that because China's emissions were so bad, they have the most margin for improvement.

Also, both the US and China's carbon emissions have been relatively flat for the last 5 years.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis...e-year-plateau

Rubbish. China's emissions have not been stable even by your own link (maybe you read that their coal consumption was stable a "few" years") and they have been driving the global increase in emissions while the U.S. has been reducing emissions. Since 2000, we have had the world's largest reductions in emissions and China has had the world's largest increases in emissions. Of course China has the most room for improvement. How is that a badge of honor? That's like saying Venezuela has the most margin for economic improvement.

Imagine if you will that you own and operate a restaurant. It is clean, sanitary, safe, and has all the permits. One day Jose opens an illegal kitchen next door and takes away business by beating your prices. He can do so because he doesn't have to pay for pesky permits or insurance or worker safety. Then when it all comes crashing down on him, he wants you to help pay for him to modernize and get legal. Sound fair?

That's China. They have taken our manufacturing by doing it cheaper, partly by raping the environment with unsafe and inefficient dirty factories. Now that they are being smothered by smog and suffering dire shortages of arable land and water, they want to be a strong proponent of climate treaties so we can help them clean up their mess.

My primary objection to the Paris accord was the $10 Billion per year we were obligated to pay to help "developing nations", of which China is one of them. Sorry, as long as China is running a $500 Billion trade surplus and has money to upgrade their navy and air force to compete with ours, then I won't support a red cent going to them from the Green Fund.

[Open-D]

Originally Posted by mightleavenyc

Why would you think 120 years is anything but a blip in comparison to the overall trend?

In climatic terms, 120 years is but a single hearbeat in a 70-year life.