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Old 11-20-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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I saw an NPR article that liberals were commenting on and saying things such as "No, it should be human beings first 🌍 ".

Absolutely crazy.

A country by definition puts itself citizens first. Otherwise, why even have a country?
So we should just lift all sanctions with all governments.

The American First reference with Saudia Arabia is because of trade.

So you all believe that all sanctions should be off the table if it means the USA could make some money off of the countries.

That's a new approach and not something i don't think any Presidential candidate has ever officially run on.

Is this the latest conservative policy.

No sanctions if it means the USA doesn't maximize profits?
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:15 PM
 
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Bingo. Poking all our allies in the eye appeals to the dumbs, the trolls, and the sociopaths, but it doesn't actually benefit us in the long run.
oh yea, because bending over and letting other countries take advantage of us worked out so well for us right? <sarcasm>
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:25 PM
 
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I saw an NPR article that liberals were commenting on and saying things such as "No, it should be human beings first �� ".

Absolutely crazy.

A country by definition puts itself citizens first. Otherwise, why even have a country?
You just have to keep up. It's now about making America rake again. That twumpy can be so silly.

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Old 11-21-2018, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Wow! Not much of a grip on reality right here.
There are some experts who believe the IPCC is jumping to conclusions about global warming's severity.
I suppose automation might not result in many problems, if society can adapt easily enough.
I don't know much about economics, so I suppose the national debt might not be as large of a problem as I'm assuming it is.
Space debris and clean water access though...anyone who does five seconds of research into that knows those will, without question, become major issues in the future, and pollution and general environmental concerns are major issues as well, obviously...at least judging by the Texas-sized island of garbage floating through the ocean.

We need to be thinking in terms of the next century and a half or so. Many people, unfortunately, are off in some other dimension where nothing exists past fifty years from now.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Today, Liberal/Progressives (Democrats) want Globalism, Statism, Amnesty for Illegals (Open Borders) and equate patriotism, and putting America first as akin to what happened in Nazi Germany. They do this purposely to unfairly demonized nationalism so they can insert the Globalism to get things done here that are more similar to Europe. They can't do it without allowing more influence from international law, and entities like the United Nations.

The end game of anti U.S. nationalism is to get the liberal/progressive policies passed they haven't been able to yet get through like banning private citizens from owning firearms.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Trump's action's yesterday were not America first. They were Trump and Jared first.

Trump and Jared owe big bucks to the Saudis. Trump has talked about it many times, how they buy condos from him. Jared's billion dollar boondoggle in Manhattan has been bailed out by the Saudi's.

Trump and Jared are owned.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Today, Liberal/Progressives (Democrats) want Globalism, Statism, Amnesty for Illegals (Open Borders) and equate patriotism, and putting America first as akin to what happened in Nazi Germany. They do this purposely to unfairly demonized nationalism so they can insert the Globalism to get things done here that are more similar to Europe. They can't do it without allowing more influence from international law, and entities like the United Nations.

The end game of anti U.S. nationalism is to get the liberal/progressive policies passed they haven't been able to yet get through like banning private citizens from owning firearms.
A slight majority of Republicans want amnesty for illegals too, last I checked although it's less than for democrats.

Stay or deport? In a Pew Research Center survey conducted in May, a solid majority (72%) of Americans – including 80% of Democrats, 76% of independents and 56% of Republicans – say undocumented immigrants currently living in the U.S. should be allowed to stay in this country legally if they meet certain requirements. Last year, we asked a follow-up question of those who opposed granting legal status to undocumented immigrants: Should there be a “national law enforcement effort to deport” all immigrants here illegally? Just 17% of the public overall favored such an effort, including about a quarter (27%) of Republicans.
What Americans want to do about illegal immigration | Pew Research Center

Any Nazi comparisons are foolish though.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Our trades only benefited the other countries.. Shouldn't it also benefit us? Just because a wall may be built on only 700 miles of the most porous areas of the border to protect us from illegal entry how does that equate to isolationism when we allow in 1 million legal immigrants a year and we will always have legal ports of entry?


Only those from known terrorist countries were banned from coming here but we still allow in all others. Again, how does that equate to isolating ourselves?


Have you bothered to find out the real reason that Trump didn't attend the Armistice Day ceremony other than assuming it was isolationism? Of course not as this incident and everything else you have mentioned is just leftist lies!


Speaking of EO's does Obama ring a bell?
Well, huh.

These farmers would disagree.

“U.S. farmers planted 89.1 million acres of soybeans this year, the second most ever, expecting China’s rising demand to give them better returns than other bulk crops.

But Beijing slapped a 25 percent tariff on U.S. soybeans in retaliation for duties imposed by Washington on Chinese exports. That effectively shut down U.S. soybean exports to China, worth around $12 billion last year. China typically takes around 60 percent of U.S. supplies.”

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUKKCN1NQ0GA
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:40 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Nationalism, or putting America first is not the same thing as isolationism.

Just because globalism may be inevitable in many respects, doesn't mean that we have to jump into it face first without protecting ourselves.

Wanting better trade deals is a great example.

"We are the world" was a nice song and a sweet sentiment....

But it's a p**s poor way to do business as a country, especially if you just blindly accept crappy trade deals.
Guess what? Trump's tariffs and trade wars have cost us dearly. Farmers are now receiving bailouts from, you guessed it, us. Why? Because they can't sell their products to other countries. Why is that, you ask? Because Trump is fighting with the world, because "We are the best!" And now taxpayers are paying farmers not to sell their produce and livestock, so it sits on the farms and rots. That's what our tariffs are getting us. So much winning from Trump! MAGA!

https://www.newsweek.com/farmer-soyb...de-war-1069593

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/19/u...trade-war.html
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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More like “we live in a bizarre time where” people are easily trolled and baited by divisive threads.
if you find this thread divisive, you’re clearly part of the problem the OP refers to.
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