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Well the procedures are entirely different because the organs are different. In essence though they are both genital mutilation, just accepting one is ok doesn't refute this. However claims of health benefits for male circumcision are marginal and equally obtained by good hygiene, and while there is little evidence of sexual dysfunction there is significant evidence of reduced sensation and enjoyment which may result in later sexual dysfunction that may be unattributed to other factors (psychological etc.).
So while the procedures are not the same, it's also intellectually dishonest to claim male circumcision is not mutilation regardless of perceived heath benefits. Your contention is just that the mutilation is acceptable because of perceived benefits.
I understand that it’s also mutilation, but nowhere near the same category as FGM. But there are some health benefits to male circumcision, and absolutely zero health benefits to FGM. To put them in the same category is insulting.
“There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:
A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of some sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the *****) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the ***** and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).
Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.”
For some reason the word g-l-a-n-s is not allowed. I wonder why.
I understand that it’s also mutilation, but nowhere near the same category as FGM. But there are some health benefits to male circumcision, and absolutely zero health benefits to FGM. To put them in the same category is insulting.
“There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:
A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of some sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the *****) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the ***** and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).
Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.â€
For some reason the word g-l-a-n-s is not allowed. I wonder why.
There are also some benefits to female circumcision listed, along the same vain (less infections etc). It's all BS, but people stuck in their narrow mindsets cannot see just how hypocritical you're being. You're even trying to justify cruel mutilating an infant at the same time expressing deep outrage at female circumcision which literally does the same thing (removes the hood of the clitoris whereas male circumcision removes the hood of the penis).
I understand that it’s also mutilation, but nowhere near the same category as FGM. But there are some health benefits to male circumcision, and absolutely zero health benefits to FGM. To put them in the same category is insulting.
“There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:
A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of some sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the *****) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the ***** and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).
Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.â€
For some reason the word g-l-a-n-s is not allowed. I wonder why.
You omitted the note.
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Note: Some studies show that good hygiene can help prevent certain problems with the penis, including infections and swelling, even if the penis is not circumcised. In addition, using a condom during sex will help prevent STDs and other infections.
And the risks. Any reason for that?
Seriously circumcision regardless of gender is a medieval practice that should only be performed for valid medical reasons, or at the request of the recipient when they have reached sufficient age to make an informed decision.
So we're down to cancer (HPV, there's a vaccine for that), and if we're looking at the benefits to lopping off body parts for cancer prevention, there's a whole lot more parts that are non-essential that could be lopped off with higher risks of developing cancer, and lower prognosis outcomes.
There are also some benefits to female circumcision listed, along the same vain (less infections etc). It's all BS, but people stuck in their narrow mindsets cannot see just how hypocritical you're being. You're even trying to justify cruel mutilating an infant at the same time expressing deep outrage at female circumcision which literally does the same thing (removes the hood of the clitoris whereas male circumcision removes the hood of the penis).
Mote in your brother's eye, beam in yours.
Yeah, i'm calling Bull**** on this. Please explain how any of this benefits the woman ? Except, possibly the reduction of the labia majora in the case of them being excessive in size.
There are four main types of FGM:
Type 1 (clitoridectomy) – removing part or all of the clitoris.
Type 2 (excision) – removing part or all of the clitoris and the inner labia (lips that surround the vagina), with or without removal of the labia majora (larger outer lips).
Type 3 (infibulation) – narrowing of the vaginal opening by creating a seal, formed by cutting and repositioning the labia.
Other harmful procedures to the female genitals, including pricking, piercing, cutting, scraping or burning the area.
As a medical professional, I can tell you that female circumcision is mutilation and if done on a child, the parents should be charged with abuse!
It actually has benefits though, just like male circumcision. It can reduce a woman's desire for sex outside of marriage by reducing the pleasure received during sex. In parts of the world where this practice is common, women don't stray from their husbands as much.
I could see how a lot of parents might see the benefit in such a procedure, as having a son that is popular with the opposite sex gives a parent a sense of pride, but having a daughter do the same is quite embarrassing.
Yeah, i'm calling Bull**** on this. Please explain how any of this benefits the woman ?
How does male circumcision benefit men? The same BS answers I saw actually apply to female circumcision. The most common form of female circumcision - and the one practiced by these Muslims in this thread - involve removing the hood of the clitoris. This is anatomically no different than removing the hood of the penis. And the same "benefits" and drawbacks are present in both. Less risk of infections and STDS (only a little bit less!) because fluid cannot be trapped under that flap of skin but at the same time loss of sensation in both men and women.
Male circumcision is an absolutely DISGUSTING and AMORAL practice as is female circumcision. What I find abhorrent is your tolerance of male circumcision - even defending it but being aghast at female circumcision. And I think the West needs to have "one law for them all" so if it's willing to tolerate male circumcision it needs to tolerate female circumcision. if it were up to me I'd ban both.
I frankly find your culture of male circumcision just as barbaric and reprehensible as what the Muslims do. I'm just shoving that hypocrisy back in your face because you love to criticize other cultures for the same crap yours does.
Good joke. It's a symbol of female submission to slavery under male rule. Nothing more.
As for the mutilation, if destroying a woman's bodily function and ruining her life while still a child is acceptable by an entire society and nation, then that society needs to be obliterated.
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