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Oh he gets facts wrong, as do you.
Unlike me however, you folks never own up to them - kind'a like the President.
Aside from that, I'm OK with the fact that he found that another city was having that water problem. All that additional factoid did was bolster my point that other cities WILL be having this issue - especially here out west.
If you know of another city where treated sewer water is being pumped into the drinking supply please feel free to post a link. It won't upset and indeed will again add to my point.
Ken
Nah, we had a disagreement on each others opinions in a different and unrelated thread, unless of course you were mistaking your opinion for fact? I simply pointed out on this thread that you made up what you thought was a fact.
Nah, we had a disagreement on each others opinions in a different and unrelated thread, unless of course you were mistaking your opinion for fact? I simply pointed out on this thread that you made up what you thought was a fact.
Nope, didn't "make up" anything. I simply passed on what was in the article: "...Now, El Paso is on track to become the first large city in the United States to treat its sewage water and send it directly back into its taps...."
The fact that the article's writer was unaware of the fact that El Paso is apparently the 2nd place to do that rather than the 1st is just the way it is. Or maybe the author doesn't consider Orange County a city. I would - which is why I accepted the article about Orange County, but maybe the author doesn't. Who knows, I sure don't and neither do you.
Ken
PS - I can't help pointing out that YOU apparently just "made up a fact" when YOU claimed that I "made up a fact".
Oh, the irony.
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"El Paso to drink treated sewage water due to climate change drought
Typically the river can supply as much as half of the city's water needs. But climate change is making that increasingly difficult and is pushing the city to look for new sources of water. Now, El Paso is on track to become the first large city in the United States to treat its sewage water and send it directly back into their taps...."
El Paso is the first, it won't be the last.
Do you want your water regular - or chunky style?
Mmmmmmm.
Ken
All water on this planet is all we ever had and all we ever will have. Tampa Bay residents drink water from the Gulf of Mexico. Why? Because they can afford to and because they have to.
It's all in how much you treat the water. Sand filtration and polishing, RO, etc get the job done but is it affordable and what do you do with the brine?
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Or coal.... <gasp>. Anthracite filters are superior to sand because it fractures into odd shapes. They last much longer.
How much do they cost per year at say 10 to 200 mgd?
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Yeah, I know that ALL water is recycled, that's kind of a no-brainer. The question is - aside from the "ick" factor - how WELL will it be treated before it is returned to the drinking supply? There ARE standards, but whether or not they will be followed remains to be seen. Remember what happened in Flint?
Ken
They are followed very well until the Government aka EPA get involved.
If it meets acceptable clean water standards then what is the problem?
Flint Michigan on the Great Lakes has contaminated & substandard "natural" water.
This.
What was being called Waste Water is now being called Water Reclamation because that's what we are really doing with it.
Nature has been doing this for many years, but WWTPs or WRFs are speeding the process up.
Go back to the Clean Water Act and come forward to present day and see what we're doing with biological and in some cases chemical treatment tertiary etc. and it starts to make sense.
Take a river from a mountain town and follow it out to the plains. Ask yourself where the upstream effluent goes and where the downstream influent comes from.
Oh, and here's another question... Where do you think cow peepee goes and how does it taste compared to Roscoe's?
All water on this planet is all we ever had and all we ever will have. Tampa Bay residents drink water from the Gulf of Mexico. Why? Because they can afford to and because they have to.
It's all in how much you treat the water. Sand filtration and polishing, RO, etc get the job done but is it affordable and what do you do with the brine?
Yeah, I know that ALL water is recycled, that's kind of a no-brainer. The question is - aside from the "ick" factor - how WELL will it be treated before it is returned to the drinking supply? There ARE standards, but whether or not they will be followed remains to be seen. Remember what happened in Flint?
Nope, didn't "make up" anything. I simply passed on what was in the article: "...Now, El Paso is on track to become the first large city in the United States to treat its sewage water and send it directly back into its taps...."
The fact that the article's writer was unaware of the fact that El Paso is apparently the 2nd place to do that rather than the 1st is just the way it is. Or maybe the author doesn't consider Orange County a city. I would - which is why I accepted the article about Orange County, but maybe the author doesn't. Who knows, I sure don't and neither do you.
Ken
Always a best practice to read critically rather than blindly accept what you read. Some no-name from CNN isn't trustworthy enough for me to blindly accept everything they say.
Always a best practice to read critically rather than blindly accept what you read. Some no-name from CNN isn't trustworthy enough for me to blindly accept everything they say.
Except that, until just now, you apparently didn't read it (or or least didn't read it very well) when you claimed that I "made up a fact" when in fact the "fact" I supposedly "made up" was simply something in the article (right or wrong) - so clearly I DIDN'T MAKE IT UP (in spite of your claim).
As I said - Oh the irony about you claiming I made it up - when in fact you made up the claim that I "made it up".
Too rich!
"El Paso to drink treated sewage water due to climate change drought
Typically the river can supply as much as half of the city's water needs. But climate change is making that increasingly difficult and is pushing the city to look for new sources of water. Now, El Paso is on track to become the first large city in the United States to treat its sewage water and send it directly back into their taps...."
El Paso is the first, it won't be the last.
Do you want your water regular - or chunky style?
Mmmmmmm.
Ken
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Except that, until just now, you apparently didn't read it (or or least didn't read it very well) when you claimed that I "made up a fact" when in fact the "fact" I supposedly "made up" was simply something in the article (right or wrong) - so clearly I DIDN'T MAKE IT UP (in spite of your claim).
As I said - Oh the irony about you claiming I made it up - when in fact you made up the claim that I "made it up".
Too rich!
What 'stretch'?
You made it up.
YOU made up the "fact" that I "made up" the claim that El Paso was the first city to do this - when in fact, I didn't make up anything.
YOU DID however, when you accused me of that.
Most cities in the eastern (humid) half of the US are drinking water with a substantial treated fraction. It's not direct, as the treated effluent first goes into the river and then is pumped out by the next town, but it works out the same.
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