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Old 12-03-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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Not by simply owning a gun but by demanding rights to take a loaded anywhere, everywhere, shoot it anywhere you want, even on a school playground for example (which is something gun rights advocates want to do) is definitely putting gun owner's rights above rights of everyone else.

I do not feel sorry for gun owners if they are inconvenienced by background checks and regulations on using guns. They should stop looking for pity.

some ignorance and hyperbole in this post. first off concealed carry does come with some restrictions, good one in fact. and while there are some that think those restrictions should be eliminated, they are idiots.


shoot a gun where ever we want? get real. once again law abiding gun owners dont want to shoo their guns every where, its often times unsafe to do so. there are times however when discharging a firearm becomes necessary to save lives though.



but you have to understand that gun rights are codified in the constitution, just like free speech rights, and the right to remain silent, the right to an attorney, the right to a speedy trial, etc.


since you want to eliminate gun rights, ask yourself what other rights are you willing to freely give up? remember its the second amendment that put the teeth into the rest of the amendments.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:31 AM
 
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Should there be mandatory jail time for anyone who accidentally kills someone with a firearm? If we have rights to own guns, shouldn't those rights come with responsibilities?
If there were that invader that killed Kate Steinle woud be locked up for it.

Funny, I've never heard of the Bill of Responsibilities. That's a new one.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Should there be mandatory jail time for anyone who accidentally kills someone with a firearm? If we have rights to own guns, shouldn't those rights come with responsibilities?
Do we automatically jail people who accidentally hit people with their cars? This question is dependant on whether the gun owner was negligent.
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Old 12-04-2018, 11:18 AM
 
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Should there be mandatory jail time for anyone who accidentally kills someone with a firearm? If we have rights to own guns, shouldn't those rights come with responsibilities?
There is no "mandatory" anything for any crime before there is a trial. Because only a trial decides if there was a crime. There are "mandatory" jail-times for some convictions, but those tend to vary by State and absolutely vary by the charge that will also vary.

For example, if an accidental death is ruled manslaughter 2, and the person is convicted, then the state statute will decide if there is a minimum sentence.

Stop trying to bypass a very sensible yet necessarily complicated system, which assures justice for both victims and the innocent, with politics. You come off as unknowledgeable and emotional in a manner that can only be detrimental to the system of justice that we painstakingly built.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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The Dad got his head shot off. That work for you?

You ok with LE entering your house without a warrant? That's what it sounds like.
I misunderstood -- I thought it was the friend of the father that got shot.

Yes that is a harsh punishment.

Nope they need a warrant.

But if a child gets access to a gun and there is an accident, someone was negligent. Especially with a younger child.

That irresponsible behavior should be punished.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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I misunderstood -- I thought it was the friend of the father that got shot.

Yes that is a harsh punishment.

Nope they need a warrant.

But if a child gets access to a gun and there is an accident, someone was negligent. Especially with a younger child.

That irresponsible behavior should be punished.
The main reason gun accidents happen with children is because they are not familiar with guns. In rural areas like mine, gun accidents are very rare and most kids learn to shoot at an early age. They start deer hunting here at age 6 and develop a respect for guns. Gun accidents happen because guns are a mystery to them.
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Old 12-04-2018, 11:04 PM
 
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That doesn't stop the government from doing those things, but that's a whole different story.
LOL, yeah, just like the ban on automatics....of course, law enforcement and military are totally exempt!!


If that isnt the most blatantly direct infringement Ive ever seen, Im not sure what is!! That is basically saying the lowly peasants cannot have these guns, (or make it next to impossible to legally obtain them), but the authorities can have them...well duh, of course they dont want 'the general public' being equally armed as the authorities, tyranny could not grow and thrive with that going on.


Law enforcement today is imo, the defenders of tyranny, the first line of defense for tyranny.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Should there be mandatory jail time for anyone who accidentally kills someone with a firearm? If we have rights to own guns, shouldn't those rights come with responsibilities?
Give 20 years minimum to anyone (felons) who isn't supposed to have a firearm and that would clean up a lot of the inner city garbage/thugs.


But liberals don't want to do that. Liberals are actually quite lenient (usually) with criminals who get caught with/use guns.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:05 AM
 
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Give 20 years minimum to anyone (felons) who isn't supposed to have a firearm and that would clean up a lot of the inner city garbage/thugs.


But liberals don't want to do that. Liberals are actually quite lenient (usually) with criminals who get caught with/use guns.
WOW, sounds like you would be much happier living under a brutal dictatorship.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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LOL, yeah, just like the ban on automatics....of course, law enforcement and military are totally exempt!!


If that isnt the most blatantly direct infringement Ive ever seen, Im not sure what is!! That is basically saying the lowly peasants cannot have these guns, (or make it next to impossible to legally obtain them), but the authorities can have them...well duh, of course they dont want 'the general public' being equally armed as the authorities, tyranny could not grow and thrive with that going on.


Law enforcement today is imo, the defenders of tyranny, the first line of defense for tyranny.
Damn straight.

It's Animal Farm in real life--some animals are more equal than others.
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