Why Are Indian Reservations So Poor? (Congress, illegal, drug, economy)
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Uuugh... health,nutrition and housing tend to be bad for poor people.
Is poverty supposed to be a good thing? Did I miss something?
Being poor is neither a bad thing or a good thing. It can be bad, or it can be good, it depends.
It sucks to be poor in America, because it usually means you have to live around terrible people, send your kids to terrible schools, and worry constantly about being able to afford rent and transportation.
But imagine if you lived around good people, homeschooled, and owned your own land, on which you were mostly or entirely self-sufficient, and all of your family lived within walking-distance.
There are people out there that think life wouldn't be worth living if they didn't have their cell-phones. And kids often feel utterly embarrassed in school if their parents are too cheap or strict to get them a really expensive cell-phone.
I can remember a time before cell-phones, if anything, I wish cell-phones didn't exist at all.
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Being poor is neither a bad thing or a good thing. It can be bad, or it can be good, it depends.
It sucks to be poor in America, because it usually means you have to live around terrible people, send your kids to terrible schools, and worry constantly about being able to afford rent and transportation.
But imagine if you lived around good people, homeschooled, and owned your own land, on which you were mostly or entirely self-sufficient, and all of your family lived within walking-distance.
And imagine you still didn't have a brain. God takes care of His own, He just does it differently; for the ones that need the help the most, He gives great wealth.
And imagine you still didn't have a brain. God takes care of His own, He just does it differently; for the ones that need the help the most, He gives great wealth.
God doesn't give great wealth. What in the hell are you talking about?
Jesus thinks most wealthy people are going to hell. And they are. This country is full of degenerates who think the only point of life is more stuff.
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God doesn't give great wealth. What in the hell are you talking about?
Jesus thinks most wealthy people are going to hell. And they are. This country is full of degenerates who think the only point of life is more stuff.
Take their wealth away and they couldn't function ... just because it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a business man to get into heaven, doesn't mean all are doomed to hell. It just means there will be fewer ... that's all.
When a semi-nomadic people who subsist in large part by a hunter-gatherer lifestyle (which can only be sustained by a large amount of land), face displacement by a well-organized and disciplined economic system, the results are often tragic.
And please, you simpletons over there in Lefty-Land, don't prattle the usual tripe about how the noble savages "were here first"; more-efficient societies have been displacing less-efficient societies everywhere since the beginnings of recorded history, and in North America, the process started four centuries ago.
We can, however, educate (but not indoctrinate) ourselves as to how this tragedy unfolded, and part of our generous "safety net" can be re-oriented to lift those worst-affected out of the trap. But the rest is up to them, and pining for a lost heritage does nothing to identify, or address the problem.
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God doesn't give great wealth. What in the hell are you talking about?
Jesus thinks most wealthy people are going to hell. And they are. This country is full of degenerates who think the only point of life is more stuff.
Passing judgements like this are the last refuge of embittered losers; there are plenty of small entrepreneurs out there who understand the difference between wealth wasted on conspicuous consumption, and wealth used to establish and maintain a not-that-prominent enterprise.
"Money is like manure; you have to spread it around to get the most out of it."
(Anonymous; often attributed to the late Texas oil man Perry Bass)
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You have no clue what I'm even talking about.
My favorite quote by my favorite American, Thomas Jefferson...
"Those who labor in the earth are the chosen people of God, if ever he had a chosen people, whose breasts he has made his peculiar deposit for substantial and genuine virtue. It is the focus in which he keeps alive that sacred fire, which otherwise might escape from the face of the earth. Corruption of morals in the mass of cultivators is a phenomenon of which no age nor nation has furnished an example. It is the mark set on those, who not looking up to heaven, to their own soil and industry, as does the husbandman, for their subsistence, depend for it on the casualties and caprice of customers. Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition. This, the natural progress and consequence of the arts, has sometimes perhaps been retarded by accidental circumstances: but, generally speaking, the proportion which the aggregate of the other classes of citizens bears in any state to that of its husbandmen, is the proportion of its unsound to its healthy parts, and is a good-enough barometer whereby to measure its degree of corruption."
Why do you think Jesus was so annoyed by money? Because people were wasting it? And please tell me, what are some Jesus-approved businesses/professions? Banking? Hollywood? Video Games? Cell-phones? Entertainment? Luxuries? Fashion? What?
Jefferson was one half of a dialectic between "agrarian" Virginians and New Englanders, who favored industrialization; both over-simplified their arguments and both, to some degree, failed to address the trap of the "peculiar institution" called slavery (which, BTW, existed in just about every culture at one time -- and was partially weakened by the emergence of the instrument used as a store of value and called sound, honest money). But over the long run, the Northerners' argument won out, and one consequence was an end to slavery in America.
The most primitive, Fundamentalist strains of Christianity are often peddled n storefronts particularly because they are most attractive to the least-adaptable, and least successful. If you want to take comfort in that because it aggrandizes your own sense of moral superiority and self-righteousness, it's your privilege. But like every doctrine that a supposedly-charismatic few think is best for all of us, it can have dangerous consequences.
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Take their wealth away and they couldn't function ... just because it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a business man to get into heaven, doesn't mean all are doomed to hell. It just means there will be fewer ... that's all.
"No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." - Matthew 6:24
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Matthew 8:36
It isn't that money is bad, but the obsession with money almost-always corrupts. I don't see much good in America.
Jesus was preaching against the Roman Empire. And we are the Roman Empire.
Passing judgements like this are the last refuge of embittered losers; there are plenty of small entrepreneurs out there who understand the difference between wealth wasted on conspicuous consumption, and wealth used to establish and maintain a not-that-prominent enterprise,
You have no clue what I'm even talking about.
My favorite quote by my favorite American, Thomas Jefferson...
"Those who labor in the earth are the chosen people of God, if ever he had a chosen people, whose breasts he has made his peculiar deposit for substantial and genuine virtue. It is the focus in which he keeps alive that sacred fire, which otherwise might escape from the face of the earth. Corruption of morals in the mass of cultivators is a phenomenon of which no age nor nation has furnished an example. It is the mark set on those, who not looking up to heaven, to their own soil and industry, as does the husbandman, for their subsistence, depend for it on the casualties and caprice of customers. Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition. This, the natural progress and consequence of the arts, has sometimes perhaps been retarded by accidental circumstances: but, generally speaking, the proportion which the aggregate of the other classes of citizens bears in any state to that of its husbandmen, is the proportion of its unsound to its healthy parts, and is a good-enough barometer whereby to measure its degree of corruption."
Why do you think Jesus was so annoyed by money? Because people were wasting it? And please tell me, what are some Jesus-approved businesses/professions? Banking? Hollywood? Video Games? Cell-phones? Entertainment? Luxuries? Fashion? What?
I hate to break it to you people, but god doesn't want you to be rich. He wants you to be good.
"People often tell me I could be a great man. I'd rather be a good man." - John F. Kennedy Jr.
I keep hearing how they're like 3rd world countries within the U.S. Why is this? What are the solutions?
This would be the case if you went to reservations controlled by NA in Canada, Mexico, Central America and South America...for some reason, they don't want to or don't adopt the modern world materialisms.
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