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There's nothing complicated about it. It's not premeditated, but criminally negligent.
If you or I heard gunshots and went into someone's house to investigate, then shot the homeowner by mistake, we'd be charged with trespassing, and manslaughter at the very least. However, once you call yourselves "government," you can do things like shoot people by mistake and get away with it.
If I was working on a construction site and my bad decision caused the death of someone else, I would be fired immediately, and may have charges brought up against me.
"The department" is funded by taxpayers, so once again, everyday people will be shelling out for the cops' mistake.
Yes, welcome to the United States of America, going strong now for more than 240 years.
Tonight I will break into your home, naked, and try to attack your wife and/or kids as they take a bath.
When the cops show up I want you to follow orders to the letter immediately after you've rightfully killed my evil ass.
Uh, you misread what the poster said. He said the Grandfather should have dropped the gun and complied, not the naked intruder. If the Grandfather hadn't acted improperly, he would still probably be alive.
The 73 year old man was "proven" himself to be not a threat after the fact or before the fact?
Are you familiar with Graham v Connor supreme court case in 1989?
This statement/question does not make any sense.
How about we as a society don't accept,
"the old guy shouldn't have gotten attacked and been disoriented in his own home if he didn't want to get shot" ,as a reasonable response to a citizen in need being killed by a government employee.
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so explain this comment. Yes, I have a comprehension difficulty, so why don't you break it down for me.
Explain what? It means what I wrote. We often ask the military to operate under do not fire until fired upon ROE in situations that don't involve US citizens.
Also, we should expect better of LE than to shoot first.
Uh, you misread what the poster said. He said the Grandfather should have dropped the gun and complied, not the naked intruder. If the Grandfather hadn't acted improperly, he would still probably be alive.
So, he deserved to die, for being old and disoriented after being attacked and defending his family in his home.
It does not make any sense to you because you haven't read Graham v Connor case law. Police's use of force in United States derived from that case law.
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Explain what? It means what I wrote. We often ask the military to operate under do not fire until fired upon ROE in situations that don't involve US citizens.
Also, we should expect better of LE than to shoot first.
How many tours have you served in Iraq or Afghanistan?
So, he deserved to die, for being old and disoriented after being attacked and defending his family in his home.
Exactly.
I'm pretty hardened from growing up in the ghetto. This old man was in 'Nam. Your mind and body don't immediately go to neutral after the incident is over...especially if you've had these experiences.
The 73 year old man was "proven" himself to be not a threat after the fact or before the fact?
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It does not make any sense to you because you haven't read Graham v Connor case law. Police's use of force in United States derived from that case law.
No, it does not make sense because it is not grammatically coherent.
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How many tours have you served in Iraq or Afghanistan?
I'm still in.
Are you not aware of do not fire until fired upon ROE 's? CONUS is not a combat zone and does not need to be treated as one.
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