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Old 12-04-2018, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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On that face, it has NOTHING to do with Trump or his Campaign. It's the redacted parts I'm more interested in.
There are plenty of non-redacted portions did you read them because he sure seemed to undermine the sanctions back in 2016 through his contacts with the Russian Ambassador. He worked in the Trump campaign and was the NSA advisor yet you are dismissing this as a nothing. Do you recall Sally Yates informing Trump that Flynn was at risk yet you claim this was a nothing.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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what's the crime again? the transition team AFTER the election talking to Russians? LOL
If they were working on lifting sanctions as the final leg of a quid pro quo deal, then yes, that is a crime.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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what's the crime again? the transition team AFTER the election talking to Russians? LOL
He contacted the Russian Ambassador in December and lied about it, why was it necessary to lie since as you claim he was on the transition team.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:40 PM
 
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Flynn is said to have lied, that's it.

None of his contact with the Russians was illegal. It doesn't seem anything he did with Turkey was illegal.
Lol! Man, you’d better take off those blinders.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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He's a general who at one time was a loyal patriot and soldier. He wanted to disavow the treason that Trump and his campaign engaged in and put country first.
Those emotions probably came into play. But his son was also involved, so there were lots of reasons for Flynn to cooperate with Mueller.

Like Jeff Sessions, I think Flynn got swept up in the emotions of the election. And like Sessions, I'm sure he soon regretted being swept away after some consequences appeared.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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If they were working on lifting sanctions as the final leg of a quid pro quo deal, then yes, that is a crime.
no is not! an incoming President can tell a country that sanctions NEGOTIATIONS are on the table when he takes the oath and change the policy of a previous President. A President elect doesn't have to follow the same foreign policy as the outgoing President.

once a President elect in transition he can talk to countries. He has no power until he takes oath. No crime in talking.

President elect Trump could tell other countries that he doesn't like the Iran Deal and it's going to be on the table when he takes oath, that is not a crime......that's why they call it lame duck President or lame duck congress after an election.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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We can't write off that Mueller is an establishment Republican and LE guy and it would fit that he would be hesitant to lock up a GENERAL, especially one who was highly thought of before his fall.

The same Justice doesn't apply in our system. Sorry, but it doesn't.
Mueller was a Captain with several combat awards when he left the Marine Corps, including a Purple Heart. I doubt he would be reserved about prosecuting a General.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:51 PM
 
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He contacted the Russian Ambassador in December and lied about it, why was it necessary to lie since as you claim he was on the transition team.
Comey, Mccabe and the FBI agents testified under oath to Congress that Flynn didn't lie.....so Mueller better give details in what Flynn lied about that raised to level to charge him.

if lying now is a crime....Comey, Clapper, Mccabe and Brenner should be charge for lying.....all of them lied under oath.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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There are plenty of non-redacted portions did you read them because he sure seemed to undermine the sanctions back in 2016 through his contacts with the Russian Ambassador. He worked in the Trump campaign and was the NSA advisor yet you are dismissing this as a nothing. Do you recall Sally Yates informing Trump that Flynn was at risk yet you claim this was a nothing.
Nothing as related to Trump's campaign. If I recall Yates AND Obama told Trump to stay away from Flynn. The issues I see here is that Trump not listening to either of them was not trusting of Obama and anyone associated with his administration, rightly so. He was also very naive and unprepared at the time he went from candidate to President-elect.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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True, but I think we can assume Trump Campaign and Associate and perhaps Family collusion. Trump is enough of a snake to have made others take the rap..."I know nothing...nothing"...
If that is the case he wouldn't be the first.
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