Comey admits dossier never verified before or after FISA warrant. (McCain, interview)
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[quote=Originally Posted by FatBob96
Those payments are only illegal if it can be proved that they would not have otherwise been made outside of the campaign for personal reasons.
This is not something that can be proved.... it is a matter of opinion.
Cohen is going to jail for pleading guilty to something that wasn't even a crime.[/QUOTE]
False!
Trump had years to pay them of.. But he did it a week before the election, using Cohen to set up a dummy corp, out of state, had him pay Stormy off, and refund him with tens of thousands of dollars for the job in "expenses".
Thats paying somebody of, in violation of campaign finance law.
Everything in the application was based on the Russian intel dossier, that Clinton paid for. It is indisputable that the Russian intel dossier was the central line of evidence in the application. The semantics don't matter though, because whether it was the only evidence, the predominant evidence or one tiny bit of evidence, because the FBI lied and claimed it was verified accurate, when it was not & that's illegal.
It's indisputable that GCHQ and most of the major Western Intelligence agencies were expressing their concern regarding the Trump Administrations links to Russian Intelligence Targets who they monitor as part of five eyes.
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Originally Posted by NBC News
The so-called dossier formed only a smart part of the evidence used to meet the legal burden of establishing "probable cause" that Page was an agent of Russia.
The released documents contain dozens of pages that are entirely blacked out. People who have read them, including Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, say they contain secret evidence establishing ties between Page and Russians — evidence that goes beyond what was included in the dossier compiled by Christopher Steele. Frank Figliuzzi, the former FBI counterintelligence chief who is now an NBC News contributor, says that likely includes reporting from human sources and intercepted communications. Page, it should be said, denies that he was an agent of Russia and has not been charged with a crime.
The Russia investigation wasn't launched because of Carter Page.
The heavily redacted documents released Saturday comprise an application to, and subsequent renewals by, judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing the FBI to investigate Page, a foreign policy aide to the Trump campaign. But it's already been established by the House Intelligence Committee that the Russia investigation began after the FBI learned that another campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, had been approached by a Russian agent. The agent told Papadopoulos the Russians had incriminating information about Hillary Clinton, including emails, according to court documents.. Papadopoulos then mentioned to an Australian diplomat that the Russians had "dirt" on Clinton, the Australians contacted the U.S. government, and the FBI began to take a look.
National security experts who have reviewed the document say that even the parts that aren't blacked out contain more than enough information to provide a judge reason to rule that the FBI had probable cause to believe that Page was an agent of Russia.
Probable cause is much lower than the reasonable doubt the standard required to convict someone of a crime. "It's the probability of a possibility," said William Banks, director of the Institute for National Security and Counterterrorism at Syracuse University College of Law. Page had already appeared on the FBI's radar as a target of Russian intelligence recruitment in a separate spy case. He has acknowledged that he traveled to Moscow and met with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign. It would have been malpractice for the FBI, confronted with allegations that Page was helping the Russians, not to investigate, Figliuzzi says.
Four different judges, all appointed by Republican presidents, signed off on electronic surveillance of Carter Page.
And that's the end of a long process that involves multiple layers of review within the FBI and the Justice Department, current and former officials say. Anyone trying to put one over on the FISA court would be risking his or her career.
In terms of the dossier, it had to contain more than a dossier by a private company, because a number of security warnings were given to Trump by MI6 and other intelligence agencies should it be published, which is why it is heavily redacted.
A FISA warrant means nothing to Intelligence agencies outside of the US, who are going to monitor intelligence targets regardless of US Laws, and in terms of Trump they found by listening in to Russian targets that they were being contacted by the Trump campaign and many of these targets were close to Putin or were regarded as active Russian Intelligence Assets.
GCHQ passes everything of interest to the NSA, as we share a lot of intelligence on a daily basis.
Face it. They had a conclusion before any investigation was a thought of to begin with.
*MAKE SURE THAT GUY ISN'T PRESIDENT
Then it quickly changed to...
*REMOVE THAT GUY AT ALL COST
It has been a "find dirt" mission from the get go.
I see you're still peddling the false narrative that the Steele Dossier triggered the investigation.
"The investigation"? There was nothing to investigate, and there never was an "investigation", either before or after the Dossier was fabricated, as the texts of Srzok make clear.
Trump had years to pay them of.. But he did it a week before the election, using Cohen to set up a dummy corp, out of state, had him pay Stormy off, and refund him with tens of thousands of dollars for the job in "expenses".
Thats paying somebody of, in violation of campaign finance law.
So you're saying Trump's never had someone settle something like this for him before? I was reading an article last night about a whistle blower from AMI, who said they've made many multiple cases go away for Trump over the years.
Last edited by Mason3000; 12-16-2018 at 05:58 PM..
It's indisputable that GCHQ and most of the major Western Intelligence agencies were expressing their concern regarding the Trump Administrations links to Russian Intelligence Targets who they monitor as part of five eyes.
Doesn't matter. The FBI submitted an unverified dossier in the FISA application & swore that it had been verified as accurate. That's illegal.
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