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Old 12-10-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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The rape Ford described, IIRC, occurred in a room away from the main party (was it a bedroom? I think). I have been to parties where small groups of people go off to some bedroom or other room away from the main party, and do ... who knows what.
Even that lunatic Ford herself didn't claim that he raped her. She described an alleged assault with no witnesses and no recollection of when or where it took place, not rape.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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But I thought with Kavanaugh there would be abortions in back alleys. Oh that's right, that is what Dems, Libs and the media was saying.

Yet another failed Democrat predicted Armageddon. You would think after this happening over and over again their supporters would wise up, instead they give excuses. Wait for it, soon the media will tell them what to parrot.
And I thought conservatives wanted a conservative judge that would rule against such things? Guess no one got exactly what they wanted.


Also, can I just get a hand count on which conservatives are NOT okay with rape/sexual assault?
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Even that lunatic Ford herself didn't claim that he raped her. She described an alleged assault with no witnesses and no recollection of when or where it took place, not rape.
She said he attacked her and was afraid he might kill her or rape her. It was an assault. If it wasn't technically "rape" I misspoke, consider it to be a shorthand description of the events.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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And I thought conservatives wanted a conservative judge that would rule against such things? Guess no one got exactly what they wanted.
No you thought wrong, conservatives wanted a conservative judge who would rule according to the Constitution of the United States instead of becoming a judicial activist on the bench, we got exactly what we wanted and you still don't understand what the SCOTUS is supposed to be about.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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A dead body would be evidence, something we saw ZERO of during the Kavanaugh hearings.
That's because the kind of event that occurred, doesn't usually produce physical evidence. Especially 30 years afterwards. Doesn't mean it didn't occur.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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She said he attacked her and was afraid he might kill her or rape her. It was an assault. If it wasn't technically "rape" I misspoke, consider it to be a shorthand description of the events.
You were wrong, there's no need to try explaining it away. She didn't accuse him of rape, she accused him of assault. Turning an assault that never happened into rape isn't shorthand, it's dishonesty.

Have you apologized for what you and other liberals did to Kavanaugh and his family yet?
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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That's because the kind of event that occurred, doesn't usually produce physical evidence. Especially 30 years afterwards. Doesn't mean it didn't occur.
People typically remember where things took place or a date when they took place... that's if they actually took place of course.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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In that case, maybe the other guy was also too drunk to remember anything, in addition to Kavanaugh. That being the case, the only people who would have witnessed it are Kavanaugh, Ford and the other guy.
Or maybe she was lying. Have you ever considered that? Have you ever considered that some people, both male and female, lie for various reasons. Have you ever considered that it may just be that very fact that lead to the idea of "innocent until proven guilty"? Have you ever considered that without that idea, the only thing that would decide a case is who the best lier is? Regardless of the truth?

I have no idea what happened there. I was not present. And until someone can prove that it did happen, crucifixion is not the way to go. You cannot destroy a man's (or woman's) life based on what one person claims, with absolutely NO proof of her claim. There are only two choices: prove the claim or withhold judgement.
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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You were wrong, there's no need to try explaining it away. She didn't accuse him of rape, she accused him of assault. Turning an assault that never happened into rape isn't shorthand, it's dishonesty.
Whatever you prefer to call it, is fine with me. If it was assault as opposed to actual "rape," it makes no difference to the argument. The claim here is whether he was willing and capable of acknowledging that he might have done something bad at that party. He was not capable of it.

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Have you apologized for what you and other liberals did to Kavanaugh and his family yet?
Have you apologized for what you, Kavanaugh and other conservatives did to Ford and her family yet?
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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But I thought with Kavanaugh there would be abortions in back alleys. Oh that's right, that is what Dems, Libs and the media was saying.

Yet another failed Democrat predicted Armageddon. You would think after this happening over and over again their supporters would wise up, instead they give excuses. Wait for it, soon the media will tell them what to parrot.
I don’t know what liberals you’re talking about, but THIS liberal doesn’t fear social conservatives. The Congress can always right social wrongs. Hell, I want the SCOTUS to repeal Roe. It would be the greatest gift the Republicans could ever give us. That would spell doom for social conservative vote mining by eliminating their biggest issue. The GOP has little else to offer conservative voters in Nebraska or Arkansas once abortion is off the table. It is THE social conservative issue in elective politics.

Besides, abortion wouldn’t be mitigated one bit. Every state that has it now would still have it.

No, what I fear about conservative justices are these pro corporate decisions that they’re so fond of. Guys like Kavanaugh and Roberts long for the days when we can turn the United States into a real lifesized Dickensian model where we all owe our souls to the company store, have no worker’s rights, and compensation that would make Chinese workers look like millionaires.

Social conservatism and conservatives are too big of a joke for me to take seriously. They’ve been on the wrong side of every issue.
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