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Old 12-15-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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Trump being a one term president will be his biggest accomplishment.
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Old 12-15-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Trump being a one term president will be his biggest accomplishment.
I thought the same thing with Obama in office --- he served two.
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Old 12-15-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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I recall Maxine Waters demanding Trump be impeached even before he took office.

Did the democrat party, the media or any liberal actually give Trump a chance before they started screaming for his removal?
While I'm sure some on this site who are absolutely against Trump will claim that they gave him a chance, but the truth is pretty much the opposite. These people were completely against the man before he won the election, and there was no pause to see what would happen. To many of their chosen media sources had already completely driven them insane with their predictions for the Trump presidency. Most thought our country would be a radioactive wasteland at this point. And now most have gone so far down the rabbit hole that it's impossible for them to look at anything Trump does or says objectively.

Of course, I'd wager that many Trump supporters felt the same way about Hillary Clinton, and would have dogged her since day one as well. The bottom line is we really had two "bottom of the barrel" choices for president in 2016. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not totally ragging on Trump here. I'm just saying I honestly never would have dreamed he would be my president. I do agree with many of his policy choices, but I'm not going to say I like the guy. For me, he represented the "lesser of two evils" in the 2016 election.

PS. I will never be a political shill for any candidate/representative/etc. If they do wrong, I have no problem pointing it out. However, I do believe there should be an effort to also discuss the good things a person is trying to do, instead of only focusing on the bad. That's what we are missing in the United States today. Our sense of fairness and balance. Far too many people only care to hear the bad when it comes to our president, and refuse to even entertain the idea that the guy could actually do something which warrants our approval. The "all out" assault on our president, with little to no positive news coverage, is a problem. Because believe it or not, his presidency has not been all bad. Most of you just haven't heard about some of the good things he's been doing, because 95% of the media won't report on it. That is a problem.
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Old 12-15-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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While I'm sure some on this site who are absolutely against Trump will claim that they gave him a chance, but the truth is pretty much the opposite. These people were completely against the man before he won the election, and there was no pause to see what would happen. To many of their chosen media sources had already completely driven them insane with their predictions for the Trump presidency. Most thought our country would be a radioactive wasteland at this point. And now most have gone so far down the rabbit hole that it's impossible for them to look at anything Trump does or says objectively.

Of course, I'd wager that many Trump supporters felt the same way about Hillary Clinton, and would have dogged her since day one as well. The bottom line is we really had two "bottom of the barrel" choices for president in 2016. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not totally ragging on Trump here. I'm just saying I honestly never would have dreamed he would be my president. I do agree with many of his policy choices, but I'm not going to say I like the guy. For me, he represented the "lesser of two evils" in the 2016 election.

PS. I will never be a political shill for any candidate/representative/etc. If they do wrong, I have no problem pointing it out. However, I do believe there should be an effort to also discuss the good things a person is trying to do, instead of only focusing on the bad. That's what we are missing in the United States today. Our sense of fairness and balance. Far too many people only care to hear the bad when it comes to our president, and refuse to even entertain the idea that the guy could actually do something which warrants our approval. The "all out" assault on our president, with little to no positive news coverage, is a problem. Because believe it or not, his presidency has not been all bad. Most of you just haven't heard about some of the good things he's been doing, because 95% of the media won't report on it. That is a problem.
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I watched this earlier (a.m) on the live version; hope I got the right clip from it.
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Old 12-15-2018, 05:30 PM
 
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PS. I will never be a political shill for any candidate/representative/etc. If they do wrong, I have no problem pointing it out. However, I do believe there should be an effort to also discuss the good things a person is trying to do, instead of only focusing on the bad. That's what we are missing in the United States today. Our sense of fairness and balance. Far too many people only care to hear the bad when it comes to our president, and refuse to even entertain the idea that the guy could actually do something which warrants our approval. The "all out" assault on our president, with little to no positive news coverage, is a problem. Because believe it or not, his presidency has not been all bad. Most of you just haven't heard about some of the good things he's been doing, because 95% of the media won't report on it. That is a problem.
What has he done that warrants anyone's approval? What good has he done? Really curious because I can't see anything that fits that description.
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Old 12-15-2018, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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A tad of a chance...after that....nope he's been a horrible President and not a leader he's a divider. His delusional followers can't prove it otherwise. "But Obama...But Hillary...but but but" nope Trump is president now.
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Old 12-15-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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For Trump supporters, the negative does not outweigh the positive. For those against him, the bad outweighs the good. It just doesn't balance out either side.
Again, what do you consider a positive? You keep talking about positives but have not pointed to anything.

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Old 12-16-2018, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Trump came across as a racist POS (as with all birthers) from day one.
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Old 12-16-2018, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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A tad of a chance...after that....nope he's been a horrible President and not a leader he's a divider. His delusional followers can't prove it otherwise. "But Obama...But Hillary...but but but" nope Trump is president now.
A "divider" is someone who tells you to RESIST before the 2016 votes were even stopped being counted, and is still whining and doing an "Evening With The Clintons" tour, two years later, so you can continue to hear all about it. Don't delude yourself -- the democrats and their media buddies gave Trump no chance at all.
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Old 12-16-2018, 04:21 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Makes you kind of wonder how many investigations Obama would have been under if the Obama DOJ were actually honest, and not covering up for that clown?
Correct -- absolute power corrupts -- absolutely.
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