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Old 12-13-2018, 07:17 AM
Status: "themoscowproject.org" (set 6 days ago)
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Ah, so you are saying, based on this tweet or whatever it was, that only "The Right" are the Violent ones!

BREAKING NEWS!........There are violent, unhinged, and ridiculously uneducated people all over this country, and they do not all gather under one banner. All one needs to do is a quick search on your PC and you will find examples of violent outbursts and straight up criminal activities being perpetrated by people who identify themselves as both Republicans and/or Democrats. That's just reality.
No, simply pointing out the hypocrisy.
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:21 AM
 
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I don't know about Bush truly believing there were WMDs in Iraq.

Ambassador Wilson was clear that there was no evidence of yellow cake from Niger. Instead of looking into it, the Bush administration outed his wife who was an uncover CIA working on stopping nuclear proliferation. Nothing about that sounds like they were looking for the truth.

Ahmed Chalabi was an untrustworthy character from the get go. There is no way any reasonable person would believe that WMD BS he was promoting.

Whatever reason Cheney, Bush and the neo-cons had for invading Iraq and Afghanistan, it was't WMDs.

That came home when Bush was on stage joking about looking for WMDs under imaginary furniture.

In retrospect, it is clear Bush was lying about WMDs to sell the invasions.
I don't know either, and I'm not sure who really can other than Bush himself, but my only point is that in many of these cases there is enough reason to question whether these were lies according to the true definition of the word all considered...

"FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, especially those inside the Washington Beltway who are curious about the internecine goings on that accompany the formulation of policy in administrations of both parties, The Washington Post's Bob Woodward is often the authoritative last word. He's turned up a lot of "scoops" going back to the administration of President Richard M. Nixon who he, along with then-writing partner Carl Bernstein, did more to drive from office in disgrace than just about anyone.

Like him or not and there are plenty who don't he's got the scalps on his belt to prove he knows what he's doing.

His latest bit of journalism isn't likely to win him any more friends on the left, as he's just knocked down a revered piece of conventional wisdom that will force a reassessment of George W. Bush's presidency. For according to Woodward, there's no evidence the 43rd president of the United States "lied" the nation into war."

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...start-iraq-war

Much easier to recognize the true lies that Nixon, Clinton and Trump tried to pull over America's eyes in any case. Trump like never before, because Trump seems to think that lying is entirely acceptable and to be expected both in his private life and as POTUS.

And Trump ever to apologize for any lie? Anything? Fohgetaboutit!
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Old 12-13-2018, 04:34 PM
Status: "themoscowproject.org" (set 6 days ago)
 
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Trump says Cohen did low-level work for him, mostly PR: Fox


He must think that everyone who isn't him, is an idiot.


Yes, VERY low level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=tE2XHYxkJgw
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Old 12-13-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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What?

I thought Cohen was his personal attorney. No?

Wasn't he involved in negotiating a Trump Tower development in Moscow?

No wonder Cohen kept recordings of his conversations.

Next we'll be told that Trump hardly knew Cohen, that he was little more than a coffee boy, really.
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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Lyin' Donny, you're in trouble.


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Old 12-13-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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Lyin' Donny, you're in trouble.


This ought to be interesting when Cohen's recorded conversations are played.
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Old 12-14-2018, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Cohen has weeks to do interviews and counter Trump lies
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Old 12-14-2018, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Looks like Scott Walker has joined the liars page. Walker decided to sign the GOP bills to try and steal power.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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"FISA warrants are granted only when the court is presented with sufficient evidence that the person who would be the target of surveillance may be acting on behalf of a foreign power, and the legal threshold to obtain such a warrant is high. The Foreign Intelligence Service Court allowed for the electronic surveillance of Manafort prior to, and subsequent to, his role in the Trump campaign."

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/14/18140...-investigation

Oh. My.

No wonder team Mueller knew he was lying.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: NC
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Pocahontas backpedaled..the liar
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/eliz...-person-color/
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