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I mean, the issue is not really up for debate anymore. Trump ran his campaign on building the Wall, and that is why he got elected.
So, why are Democrats trying to oppose Trump on this?
He campaigned on a free wall, one which is paid by Mexico, but now he is threatening to shut down the government unless the American taxpayer pays for it. Why not collect voluntary contributions from those who actually want a wall?
He won because he fooled just enough people in the Great Lakes states into believing he’d bring back manufacturing jobs, which of course hasn’t happened.
He won because he fooled just enough people in the Great Lakes states into believing he’d bring back manufacturing jobs, which of course hasn’t happened.
You mean the same states that Hillary either 1) thought were in the bag or 2) never even visited - like Wisconsin. Those states, right? At least Trump worked to win them and is trying to help with the economy. Hillary got exactly what she deserved -- a crushing and narrow loss, directly attributable to her own incompetence and arrogance. And I pray that the democrats nominate her again in 2020.
I mean, the issue is not really up for debate anymore. Trump ran his campaign on building the Wall, and that is why he got elected.
So, why are Democrats trying to oppose Trump on this?
Lol... I hope that's not true. How much do you have to hate "Mexicans" that you'll put up with all of Trump's shenanigans and failure just so he can build a wall that's not going to do anything?
Hard for you to be this wrong in such a short writeup.
Quite simply, Trump won because of two things:
1. He was a better choice than Hillary Rodham Clinton
2. He was a chance to vote for an anti establishment candidate for the first time ever. A chance to finally try things a new way with a businessman (even with all his flaws) running things rather than a politician.
I agree. The timing was perfect.
In past elections, that Billy Bush interview of Trump bashing women would have buried a candidate. Like Gary Hart when the Donna Rice affair came out he was done. This didn't happen this time as people were ready for a non-establishment candidate.
If nothing else, Trump opened the door for an outsider to get elected. Although I think if Ross Perot would have stayed at it, he would have been the first.
He campaigned on a free wall, one which is paid by Mexico, but now he is threatening to shut down the government unless the American taxpayer pays for it. Why not collect voluntary contributions from those who actually want a wall?
Excellent idea. The Magaheads and Trump Humpers can pay for it, after all they're all rolling in dough now after Dear Leader's Bigly Beautiful tax cut, right?
So, are all of you Trumpettes going to take up a collection for the Great Wall of Trump? Or are you perhaps a tiny bit concerned that your contributions would just go to pay for Trump's legal fees, or perhaps his 2020 scam-paign?
You mean the same states that Hillary either 1) thought were in the bag or 2) never even visited - like Wisconsin. Those states, right? At least Trump worked to win them and is trying to help with the economy. Hillary got exactly what she deserved -- a crushing and narrow loss, directly attributable to her own incompetence and arrogance. And I pray that the democrats nominate her again in 2020.
You’re right, he worked all those little towns that Clinton didn’t bother with. That doesn’t change the fact he got them to vote for him rather than sit out the election entirely (like many did) by selling snake oil to desperate fools.
You’re right, he worked all those little towns that Clinton didn’t bother with. That doesn’t change the fact he got them to vote for him rather than sit out the election entirely (like many did) by selling snake oil to desperate fools.
So the option was, either vote for a guy who took the time to visit our area, or vote for Hillary because, well, darn it, there's a glass ceiling to shatter, and it's her turn.
Or as you said, sit out the election, and then Crooked Hillary wins anyway.
You are going to lose again in 2020 if you democrats have the same attitude.
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You have some data that all or even most of the transfers are from illegals? I would suspect that most of the transfers are from legals and US citizens helping out the family at the old home. There is certainly a class of young men here illegally who do send money home. But otherwise it is likely the more established who are legal.
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I'd call that new math. Or, to please google "Idiot Math".
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To say nothing that anyone who sends money obviously spends more here - just to live and survive. Many also pay taxes here now.
There have been enough studies on immigration to clearly show it's a benefit...if anything.
Of course, those who know things are aware that Americans simply won't do most of those jobs. How many people are lining up to work at Chicken Killing Plants?
He campaigned on a free wall, one which is paid by Mexico, but now he is threatening to shut down the government unless the American taxpayer pays for it. Why not collect voluntary contributions from those who actually want a wall?
NICE job of conveniently overlooking the FACT he also ran his campaign on Mexico paying to build that wall.
Of course he also ran on the premise he was not just another lying politician which we now know to be the biggest lie of all.
This post should have ended the thread. It's not just the wall, it's that he said we would not be paying for it and now he is threatening to shut down the government if we don't pay for it. That's not what he promised.
And the fact that his supporters let him get away with it, and every other lie he tells, is the real problem with America today.
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