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Is a picture worth 1000 words if the picture isn't real?
(I was going to put this in the Photography section, but I think this topic can actually be controversial, so placed it here. Mods - feel free to move if you don't agree.)
These are photos generated that are not of real people. These are not created by humans in Photoshop, they are created by AI. The document explains how that's done.
Innocent view: Okay, so it saves money for advertisers who won't have to pay money to real people. It can create an image to target specific audiences, ie: If someone looks like you, you're more prone to click on it than you would if you see someone who looks nothing like you.
"Of course we have evidence. Here's a photo of you robbing the liquor store. That is you, isn't it?"
While I realize that some people don't think like that, don't think that others would think like that, don't think it would ever be used for the wrong reasons, don't underestimate those motivated to use this for their own gain at the expense of others.
Right now, the photos are going to be able to be detected by experts as not real, but how many average people are going to know they aren't real? And what happens when AI gets much better at what it's doing?
We already live in a society where images are airbrushed, cropped, photoshopped, and colors added, removed, or brightened. We can't even see a normal photo of nature anymore - all those bright photos of fall colors in New England? Most of them are photoshopped. We have people trying to look like false images, and it's caused serious health problems, let alone mental health problems. And now, we have AI just totally creating fake people out of bits and pieces of other images.
Eventually, everything will look real, but nothing will be real. Understandably, some people won't even understand how there's any problem with this - but some people will.
This is nothing too bad, its fake people. More impressive has been recent work making fake simulations of folks, saying things that are made up. While such simulations arent up to being good enough to fool folks who have access to them in high enough resolution, I suspect a government entity would be able to do better.
We're entering a time where truth is going to be harder to discern. And we are already seeing folks attack reality.
This is nothing too bad, its fake people. More impressive has been recent work making fake simulations of folks, saying things that are made up. While such simulations arent up to being good enough to fool folks who have access to them in high enough resolution, I suspect a government entity would be able to do better.
We're entering a time where truth is going to be harder to discern. And we are already seeing folks attack reality.
That's because reality is ever increasingly being mixed with fantasy and called truth. Idiocracy is becoming the only reality.
Do you want genuine photographic images?
The answer to fakery is simple. Quit using digital images and go back to film for the important stuff.
Film images can be faked, but it takes years of experience and a very delicate touch to make any fakery invisible on film. It's a skill so rare that those who could do it were once paid tons of money for the work.
Any fakery on film has to be done on the negative, straight out of the camera, and only the highest degree of skill will prevent the fakery from showing up on examination of the negatives. Once the physical surface of the film is disturbed in the least, it will show itself.
Not very well faked though, it's pretty obvious the audio doesn't match the video. The fakes can be more convincing if done better, especially if they're only to deliver a soundbite rather than a longer speech where the inconsistencies pile up.
Not very well faked though, it's pretty obvious the audio doesn't match the video. The fakes can be more convincing if done better, especially if they're only to deliver a soundbite rather than a longer speech where the inconsistencies pile up.
That was from 1 1/2 years ago. I'm pretty sure its gotten a lot better since then.
This is nothing too bad, its fake people. More impressive has been recent work making fake simulations of folks, saying things that are made up. While such simulations arent up to being good enough to fool folks who have access to them in high enough resolution, I suspect a government entity would be able to do better.
We're entering a time where truth is going to be harder to discern. And we are already seeing folks attack reality.
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Originally Posted by Dbones
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That's because reality is ever increasingly being mixed with fantasy and called truth. Idiocracy is becoming the only reality.
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Originally Posted by greywar
That was from 1 1/2 years ago. I'm pretty sure its gotten a lot better since then.
All 3 of these posts are touching on exactly why this can turn out to be a huge problem in the future. In a very short amount of time, it's going to improve and be even harder to distinguish between fake and real, and yes, truth is going to be more and more difficult to discern, and yes, the reason for that is because fantasy is mixed in with truth.
All 3 of these posts are touching on exactly why this can turn out to be a huge problem in the future. In a very short amount of time, it's going to improve and be even harder to distinguish between fake and real, and yes, truth is going to be more and more difficult to discern, and yes, the reason for that is because fantasy is mixed in with truth.
That's the entire point.
I talk about this a lot with a few of my friends. It's absolutely scary to think about.
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