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Ditto here. I'm a white, college-educated, senior woman. I do not suffer fools, braggarts, con-artists or criminals gladly. So, of course, I have long found Trump repulsive, disgusting and grandiosely full of himself; needing his comeuppance and greasing his way out of it with the scamming scion's ill-gotten gains. I've had no use for him. I was sadly disappointed with how many voters were so easily lead or duped by such a sociopathic narcissist. No accounting for some people. More, even, than I knew. Most people who know me very well, know my feelings about character, responsibility and Trump's lack of it.
When things were still white hot post-election, I had an appt. with a woman, near my age, with whom I've done business for a number of years. Our lives have often paralleled or mirrored each other in some similar major life experiences and family traumas (illness, caregiving, loss). We've been sharing and supportive in those things.
This area is mostly anti-Trump, but not so much so that you can count on it. There is always a clinker here and there. My business contact and I have never talked politics, but there was mention of how abominable the election had been. That opened the floodgates. We got on an "ain't it just awful" roll. After a few minutes of animated, bonded ventilating, I said, "I can't believe ANYONE would vote for Trump." She looked at me in surprise and said quietly, "I voted for Trump." Dead silence--- for what felt like a long time. We sat and looked at each other as if seeing each other for the first time. I finally said, "Well, back to business?" And nothing further has been said about it. But, that has felt like the elephant in the room since. I wish I had asked her why. I scrutinize our business paperwork VERY CAREFULLY. Anyone who would vote for Trump, with his blatant characterological disorders, is not someone I feel I can fully trust.
I don't talk politics with my doctor.
Hahaha, molly, what a great story! That’s the type of awkwardness I try to avoid.
I have a dear white friend. We are very similar in personality, and we love each other dearly. She’s pretty socially liberal, but I think she and her family are conservative otherwise. I suspect—though, I’d never ask her for fear of her answer—that she voted for Trump. If true, it would be hard for me not to look at her differently. In this one case, I’ll enjoy my ignorance.
Wow, I love your candor! Please, share as much as you want. I look forward to your thoughts.
I get it. I totally get where you’re coming from. Honestly, conservative blacks shock the hell out of me, too...only because of the way things are now. (Years ago—pre-Trump—black conservatives made total sense.) I have a hard time understanding the mentality of black folks who defend Trump. I mean, what...??
Shoot, I guess that’s why people always assume I’m anti-Trump. They can’t understand that alternative either. Still, though...I don’t walk up to anyone of any race with the assumption of their political leanings. As much as I don’t get the black Trump supporter, I know they exist...rare though they may be.
Well, like I said, the main thing is being accused of self-hatred. To be fair, that's something I've seen mainly on this forum, but if people are saying it here, who knows what others are thinking but not saying IRL?
In spite of my earlier comment about having some strong gut reactions, when I think about it, it's not something I really thought about or even noticed before the past few years. Maybe it's because I live in a more generally conservative area than I used to, or maybe it's because Trump himself is so polarizing. It really is hard to say. I think it might be a bit of both.
I can't think of much more just at the moment, in spite of the fact that I've been chewing on this for a while.
You want to know who I really feel for? Conservatives who don't like Trump. I mean actual fiscal conservatives, with whom I may not often agree, but who generally have at least some cogent argument to make for their position. Boy, are they ever having a hard time of it, being called traitors, RINOs, or worse, just because they don't appreciate having their party hijacked from under their noses.
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I just seemed like a conservative republican black guy to her.
I’m still dismayed, but forgave her for her ignorance and that bizarre insult.
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I am against Trump, been against Trump from day one. I also try not to talk about politics in public. However, I'm learning that some people might assume that I don't support Trump.
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I am super curious about the white liberal experience. Around me, people are so free with their anti-Trump opinions...and I think it’s because I’m black.
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I do think some people assume I don't vote Republican or that I don't support Trump because I'm Black.
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I'm black women in my 30's and people assume I'm anti-Trump as well. They are right.
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Honestly, conservative blacks shock the hell out of me, too...only because of the way things are now.
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People constantly mention to me how much Trump sucks...again, I’m assuming it’s because of my race.
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One of my best friends is conservative...and black...and anti-Trump.
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I'm around many people and I've never met any black Trump supporters.
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I know I am usually surprised when I meet a black person who likes him, but honestly? That embarrasses the hell out of me, because race-based assumptions of any kind are opposed to everything I hope I believe in.
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Honestly ..... how sad (and disturbing) it must be to live a life where people look at the color of your skin and decide what/who you support Politically. Do they do the same with your view on Marriage, Children, Religion, Work, Movies, Where you shop, What you eat, What you wear ..... Life in general?
I don't discuss Politics (or Religion) with Friends, Family, Strangers, or anyone else.
I make no assumptions about people I don't know ....... and certainly NONE because of the above.
I would guess that NOBODY makes any "assumptions" about me .... I would HATE it, if they did.
Particularly - if it was something like the color of my hair, the length of my fingernails, whether I was Right/Left handed, what size shoe I wore, the car I drove .... OR the color of my skin.
I don't go around starting conversations about politics with strangers - I tend to let other people make the first move on that score - but I do discuss it with friends, and the opinions I've expressed are based on those experiences. I'd also like to point out that one doesn't have to be part of a conversation in order to overhear it.
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I don't understand why race has anything to do with supporting Trump, or not. I have many friends that are POC, some liberal, some Trump supporters. Heck, my ex is Mexican/Native American and a Trump supporter. My SIL is Mexican and a Trump supporter. What does it matter ?
What should matter is policy and political beliefs, not race. JMO
Once again, my comment is based on my experience, and my experience is that most of the black people I know and with whom I have discussed this do not like him. YMMV. I was asked a question, and I did my best to answer it as honestly as possible. I knew when I did so that some people wouldn't like it, but what else was I supposed to do? Lie about it?
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Ditto here. I'm a white, college-educated, senior woman. I do not suffer fools, braggarts, con-artists or criminals gladly. So, of course, I have long found Trump repulsive, disgusting and grandiosely full of himself; needing his comeuppance and greasing his way out of it with the scamming scion's ill-gotten gains. I've had no use for him. I was sadly disappointed with how many voters were so easily lead or duped by such a sociopathic narcissist. No accounting for some people. More, even, than I knew. Most people who know me very well, know my feelings about character, responsibility and Trump's lack of it.
When things were still white hot post-election, I had an appt. with a woman, near my age, with whom I've done business for a number of years. Our lives have often paralleled or mirrored each other in some similar major life experiences and family traumas (illness, caregiving, loss). We've been sharing and supportive in those things.
This area is mostly anti-Trump, but not so much so that you can count on it. There is always a clinker here and there. My business contact and I have never talked politics, but there was mention of how abominable the election had been. That opened the floodgates. We got on an "ain't it just awful" roll. After a few minutes of animated, bonded ventilating, I said, "I can't believe ANYONE would vote for Trump." She looked at me in surprise and said quietly, "I voted for Trump." Dead silence--- for what felt like a long time. We sat and looked at each other as if seeing each other for the first time. I finally said, "Well, back to business?" And nothing further has been said about it. But, that has felt like the elephant in the room since. I wish I had asked her why. I scrutinize our business paperwork VERY CAREFULLY. Anyone who would vote for Trump, with his blatant characterological disorders, is not someone I feel I can fully trust.
I don't talk politics with my doctor.
This last presidential election is the very first one that has truly made me look at people in a whole, new (unflattering) way. Which saddens me, but I guess my eyes are open now.
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This last presidential election is the very first one that has truly made me look at people in a whole, new (unflattering) way. Which saddens me, but I guess my eyes are open now.
I've been telling people how much I could not stand that jackass for decades, if he came up in conversation. Nobody is surprised that I don't like him.
Also, pretty much anyone who doesn't put up with racists, idiots, or bullies is unsurprised that I would not like him.
It's kind of a given, really.
Right. It's pretty automatic amongst the sane and rational.
I'm female in a voting district where women are demonstrably anti-Trump and came out in droves to oust our Republican representative because he could not put enough distance between himself and the president, so if they know anything about where I live, they'd have a pretty good shot at guessing correctly. In general, though, I don't think there's anything particular about me that would indicate my opinion, and I'm not in the habit of discussing politics casually anywhere other than anonymously on C-D. I know only one person in my neighborhood who has even made a point of broadcasting his political leanings, and he's a Trump supporter. It did not surprise me, though, because one of my first encounters with him after we had been introduced was seeing him at the library where he was checking out a book by Ann Coulter about "talking to stupid liberals" or something like that. While I found him pleasant enough, at that point I knew that any chance of developing a friendship between our families was pretty much shot. and later encounters proved that the gulf between us was too wide to bridge. So we all remain casual acquaintances, and I studiously avoid any discussion of politics when we run into each other at neighborhood get togethers.
I am a Trump supporter (or at least most of his policies)
Thanks for sharing.
Do people frequently walk up to you and say anti-Trump things...assuming you’d agree?
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Anyone who would vote for Trump, with his blatant characterological disorders, is not someone I feel I can fully trust. 
