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Originally Posted by ChrisC
ou perform be considered a "right" by someone else?
"Health care" is not a right. There is no logical argument that it should be. If there were, then every human endeavor on the face of the planet could also be argued to be a "right." The only natural "right" you have, is the right to not have others enslave you, and to make your own choices regarding your property (your body and legally owned assets). There is no "right" to services provided by others.
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Silly - you are not using your brain. You are using the Brain of a Russia Fiction writer who was a massive hypocrite and spent much of her life taking things from taxpayers.
Without "free public health" rights most of us would be dead and gone or not exist in the first place.
Please - make a point within the context of our nation-state and modern society and 7 billion people on the planet - NOT what you think "could be" when smoking weed and debating things at 2am.
You can start asking yourself some basic questions. Doing so would require you not to answer this post - but rather thinking.
Joseph Salk ended Polio. When asked about a patent on it he said "what! You can't patent the Sun - there is no patent"....
ALL the scientists that developed modern medical methods did so for "the rights of humans to be free from disease and suffering". Virtually none of them did it for property.
Now, take it to some common examples. You own a vast property upwind from me and decide to refine oil there. Being as it is YOUR property, you want to use the cheap method which spews out vast amounts of pollutants.
But, wait - don't I have the "right" to breathe clean air? Trump doesn't think so and many millions of others agree.
If, however, we do say that I have the "right" to have the air as clean as humanly possible, that means you need to BUY the "services" of others to clean up your plant for me to have the rights....
But we are really making it even more complicated than it needs to be.
Do I have the "right" to use roads which are created with very little profit in mind? To put it another way, why doesn't the local bridge charge me $10 instead of $1.50 to cross it?
Why don't I pay $10 a month for my subscription to GPS? I can get it free from the USA, Russia, China and Euro systems.
Of course a book could be written and 100's of example that you benefit from each day could be noted....very similar. Property? Wow....so lands that the King or Wall Street Lawyers took or gave away...or the GOVERNMENT gave away to earlier settlers...they have all the rights in your opinion, but because someone is born not of their families they don't have "rights". Did God tell the King or Presidents to "lawfully" give square miles to people who lobbied them for it? And you feel that sets the stage for a modern society.
Hogwash.
Lastly, ask yourself if we should just leave horrible car accidents alone....do those people have the "rights" to EMT's, Police, transport to a Hospital, etc.
According to you the answer is "surely not".
You need to think just a little bit.
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