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Old 12-16-2018, 06:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Before I continue any conversation with you I expect an aplogy for your earlier foolish comments.
I've posted only facts, not "foolish comments." I can't help it if you're severely underinformed. That's on YOU.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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I've posted only facts, not "foolish comments." I can't help it if you're severely underinformed. That's on YOU.
Ok, dont respond to me further.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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Ok, dont respond to me further.
You're allergic to facts. I get it.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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How does that even matter? And why do you think people, themselves, shouldn't prepare for exactly such a possibility? Why do you automatically assume it's someone else's burden to bear?
Your driven by an ideology that the poor are defecient and inferior to those who are wealthy. I have savings, I have property, I have a good life. I have an education. Yet, that all goes away with a catastrophic illness. I don'tbelieve its anyones problem to address, you asseeted that. My point is poverty awaits most of us and it has nothing to do with us not being as good as those who are wealthy. Surely many who are wealthy would themslves had not been born into it.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:33 AM
 
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Your driven by an ideology that the poor are defecient and inferior to those who are wealthy.
No, I'm driven by the ideology that everyone is EQUAL and therefore each incurs their own costs/expenses.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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So let me get this right. Obamacare has massive premiums.


AND the future Trumpcare will have low premiums and cover more people?


So . . . . . where is the money coming from for Trumpcare ????????????



You guys f**ked it up.......

You tell me.

Obamacare was supposed to lower everyone's premiums by $2500 per yr.

But my premiums have doubled and my deductible has more than quadrupled.

And now I have no co-pays...... meaning EVERYTHING goes towards my deductible, even a simple check up or office visit to get a prescription renewed can cost me hundreds.

Can Trump do better?

I don't know.

But I'm pretty sure that he can't do much worse.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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You're allergic to facts. I get it.
Ok, I am done. Not returning any further discussion. Your wrong in your assertion with the figure at the 35 tax bracket. That was such a black and white error that your forfeited any right to be taken seriously as a knowledgeable person. I could remain to argue with you. So I give you permission gloat, claim victory, say you won an other argument with someone lesser then yourself at CN. I will just return to my happy life now.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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You have the right to any healthcare you can afford. You do not have the right to demand others to pay for it.
But everyone who gets insurance through their employers has the right to subsidies that we all pay for?
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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The GOP plan:

Replace regulation with absolutely nothing. Match the health care system of Somolia.

great response . being recently inpatient I can attest even now one is treated only as good as your insurance plan AND medicare supplement are so without___ any insurance Somalia may surpass us in medical care!!!!
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:46 AM
 
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We could have that, too, if the US taxed like Europe. Here's a comparative chart on what their effective national tax rates are for a middle income earner, for those who are interested. Page 9:

http://www.institutmolinari.org/IMG/...en-eu-2017.pdf

American middle income workers simply won't accept being taxed by the Federal Government at an effective tax rate of 45%-50% (look at the 2nd column from the left). That's why we can't have national health care, and all those other socialist/collectivist goodies.



Excellent point.

Try telling middle class Americans making $50k per year that have 2 kids and a mortgage that you're going to start taxing them at 50%......

They'd make the yellow vest protests in France look like a Jr. High dance party.
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