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Old 12-17-2018, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Orange idiot? Juvenile. So Kennedy and Clinton didn't try to hide their sexual escapades while they were presidents no less? At least Trump hasn't had extra marital sex while being president and in the White House Oval Office.
Um, how do you know that?

IME, people continue to do what they've always done, and Trump has always philandered.
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:16 PM
 
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the NDA is not where the crime lies. it's that the amount exceeds individual campaign limits, that it was for for the benefit of the campaign and the fact that they took measures to conceal the money that has made them guilty of the felony. the money could have literally been used to pay for pizza for the campaign staff and the contribution would still be illegal.



you have no clue what you are repeating. an NDA is to conceal the information from the public that includes the payments, that's the purpose of an NDA, DUH!!! if you disclose the amount and the reasons for it then that would defeat the purpose of an NDA. Then why do one in the first place?



what felony are you talking about? can you bring me the exact law that you have to report NDA on private matters with private money? please find me the statue.






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cohen paid the daniels payoff ( giuliani confirmed that ) and was, most likely, reimbursed by the trump organization, not trump personally.

and how is this a crime? find me the statue again that says an individual or his Corporation can't make an NDA using private funds?



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AMI paid mcdougal, and it wasn't a NDA. mcdougal was under the impression that her story was to be published.

she got paid for her story. She didn't care if it got published. If she cared she would have told her story to the media for free and not signed the agreement with AMI and cashed the $150,000.






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cohen has already admitted to and been sentenced for the crime. he cites trump as the director of the crime with knowledge that it was wrong ( and a 2012 interview shows trump was well aware of the legalities of the john edwards' case ).



it doesn't matter what Cohen thinks. Doing something "wrong" (opinion) and being a felony are 2 different things.......Cohen admitted to plea guilty to that because he would get a lesser sentence for the serious crimes of tax evasion and bank fraud that has nothing to do with Trump. It was a defense tactic.




that's the reason the SDNY hasn't indicted Trump and they won't.
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:23 PM
 
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Check Cohen's sentencing statement. That ought to get you up to speed.

you mean from the person that admitted that he lied under oath is now telling the truth in court to save his a$$ from a long prison term for tax evasion and bank fraud? LMAO!!!!
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Old 12-17-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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Also -- let's get real

If the guys is going to be a moral degenerate -- we get to judge him on his freak scale by who he sleeps with

Stormy Daniels -- FOR THE WIN.
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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One person must think it matters who the president sleeps with. That would be the president who paid at least two women to keep it a secret. He obviously did not want folks to know. I don't really blame him. Who would sleep with a porn star?
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:44 AM
 
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I don't care about who any of them have sex with. The one who had sex in the white house was impeached by a bunch of right wingers for lying about it. Trump has lied and used campaign funds to hide it, right wingers don't care.

Yes, orange idiot. Juvenile? No, its accurate.

Nope.


Not for merely just lying.......for committing perjury.
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Old 12-18-2018, 05:18 AM
 
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Also -- let's get real

If the guys is going to be a moral degenerate -- we get to judge him on his freak scale by who he sleeps with

Stormy Daniels -- FOR THE WIN.

If you're going to do that, then at least be honest that she has changed a lot (for the bad) since that happened...
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Old 12-18-2018, 05:28 AM
 
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It matters if there's a body trail prior to the election like in Arkansas and in Chicago.
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Old 12-18-2018, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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If you're going to do that, then at least be honest that she has changed a lot (for the bad) since that happened...
Well, apparently Stormy had something going for her that Melania didn't.
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Old 12-18-2018, 06:05 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Why are some people so fixated on Trump and Clinton (and other Politicians too) sex life? Why does it matter who Presents sleep with or if they had an affair?

I don't condone cheating, but a President should not be judge for their Infidelity. That should be completely separate from the office they hold. It none of our business who they have an affair with or if they are sleeping around. As long as they aren't running around and reaching Family values and morales and telling the rest of us that we should be faithful to our Wives because they are. Neither Clinton or Trump have done that or any President before them.

I don't vote for Presidents (or Politicians) based on whether they had an affair (especially if just one) or not. I vote on whether I think they be capable and would do a good job. I more concerned with with how they are doing their Job not what they are doing after hours. As long as it not affecting how they do their job then why does it matter? As far as we know there never been a PResident who had an affair that affected their job.

Also an n affair that happened decades ago shouldn't matter even more! Why does it matter that they had an affair 30 years ago? As long their wife forgave them, who cares? It really not our business at all what these Presidents do in their personal life unless they commit a serious crime like murder. It between the PResidents, their Mistress and Wife only. It not our business as far as I concerned and I don't care how many affairs any past or future President has. As long as they get the job done and are a good resident and do what they were elected to do.


They are humans just like the rest of us. They make mistakes. A single affair should not be held against them for the rest of their life. Unless it someone like John Edwards and Newt Gingrich who were real slimes for cheating on their wives while they were dying of Cancer.

Clinton and Trump are not the first Presidents to have an affair and will not be the last. At least 16 other Presidents since George Washington either (Whether before, during or after) had an affair or are rumored to have had an affair or has been accused of of some sort sexual improper behavior. One President was a flirt but not known to have had any affairs.


Their robably countless others we don't know of. But Really, why does it matter if a president has an affair? What a president does in his personal life is not my business and is between them and their spouses. I am more concern with how he runs the country and as long, as it doesn't affect how he does his Job who cares? We are all humans and all have relatives in our family (past and present) who have cheated whether we know about it or not.

It use to be we did not care about these things. The Media would try and cover them up.
the prez is sleeping with his wife.


before trump became prez he fooled around


trump is not fooling around now.
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