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Old 12-16-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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Clearly "McCarthyism" is alive and well in Washington. The left seems to think that investigations equate to proof or guilt and that 'trial by media' is all that is needed to convict. No wonder Maxine is being rewarded with an important committee chairmanship in the new Democrat majority house!
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:09 PM
 
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That's how a criminal investigates !!! When Comey is brought up on charges of lying to congress you will understand that, maybe.
Lol....
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Even a witch hunt started on the grounds of wanting to punish someone who beat you wouldn't necessarily yield multiple felony convictions. And this one has.. Clearly there was something here, and it's very unlikely it was started for no reason. Again, neither you nor I have that information - but we do know who has been convicted and why.

Whatever happened to the many people cheering for the emails that may have been illegally hacked? I seem to remember people not caring how they got the information, but just that they got it. And if it proved something of guilt, the better. At least as they'd say.


It's hard to take these "witch hunt" cries seriously after the previous few years of random investigations into emails and Benghazi.


Most of the felony convictions have been for process crimes, generated by the investigation is itself......eg, lying to the FBI.

The same thing that hardened criminal Martha Stewart was charged with.

And if you think that the FBI can't make you lie to them if they want to, then you don't know much about interrogation techniques.

And BTW in the case of Benghazi, there was an actual known incident of crime to be investigated.
and Hillary Clinton was the one who was in charge of the entire process per her position as Secretary of State.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I must remind all of you, left and right. All these investigations are nothing but trying to unseat a duly elected official by all possible means because the media and the elites despise us and are angry that we dared to disobey their order.

For the people on the left, you may even win this round but next time a Republican government would be unseating a Democrap and you wouldn’t be so happy.

This whole charade is despicable and dangerous to our democracy.
I must remind you that this duly elected official used illegal means to win. He paid off not one, but two people with hush money to not tank his election. One he paid through his lawyer and the other now there are reports that he was there for the negotiation of buying the story and not printing it. He is also facing allegations of campaign money missing and allegations of where campaign money came from in relation to people from foreign countries contributing. Calls into question how duly elected this official is. If this was Clinton, we all know the right would call for her head and if she had this evidence, honestly I would be right with them.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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Clearly "McCarthyism" is alive and well in Washington. The left seems to think that investigations equate to proof or guilt and that 'trial by media' is all that is needed to convict. No wonder Maxine is being rewarded with an important committee chairmanship in the new Democrat majority house!
I seem to remember in 2016 Trump equated investigation to guilt.

The difference of course now being that multiple people have in fact been indicted and convicted.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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Most of the felony convictions have been for process crimes, generated by the investigation is itself......eg, lying to the FBI.

The same thing that hardened criminal Martha Stewart was charged with.

And if you think that the FBI can't make you lie to them if they want to, then you don't know much about interrogation techniques.

And BTW in the case of Benghazi, there was an actual known incident of crime to be investigated.
and Hillary Clinton was the one who was in charge of the entire process per her position as Secretary of State.
You're telling me that those lies weren't meant to hide things they knew were damaging?

Come on, Bob...

And there are many crimes beyond just lies.

Benghazi wasn't a crime. It was an incident that they investigated. I supported that investigation.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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The walls are closing in on the Great Pumpkin:

"... the head-spinning volume of material being churned out by special counsel Robert Mueller and other jurisdictions often also blurs the bigger picture of a presidency beset by a span of scandal that is staggering in its breadth.
Simply put, Trump's campaign, transition, inaugural committee and presidency are now under active criminal investigation. His business -- the Trump Organization -- and his defunct charity -- The Trump Foundation are also under investigation (the charity investigation is a civil one). His college -- Trump University -- has already been deemed a fraud"...


https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/15/polit...sia/index.html

Looks like this could end up being the most corrupt President/administration in U.S. history. Pretty much everything he's involved in is corrupt.
MAGA!

Ken
This is why Mueller has been investigating this case as he would a crime syndicate with multiple tentacles for the very simple reason that it is a crime syndicate with multiple tentacles. There is nothing that Trump and his crime family has ever been involved in or with that was on the up and up or legit.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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You're telling me that those lies weren't meant to hide things they knew were damaging?

Come on, Bob...

And there are many crimes beyond just lies.

Benghazi wasn't a crime. It was an incident that they investigated. I supported that investigation.


Those lies wouldn't have happened if not for the investigation itself.

If Hillary knowingly lied over the cause of the Benghazi raid and held back assistance for reasons of political correctness...then that is a crime.

And Hillary's deleted emails, use of a private server for government business and destruction of data with a file shredding program as well as destruction of devices with a hammer were most definitely crimes.

Comey's failure to indict her for them notwithstanding.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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Those lies wouldn't have happened if not for the investigation itself.

If Hillary knowingly lied over the cause of the Benghazi raid and held back assistance for reasons of political correctness...then that is a crime.

And Hillary's deleted emails, use of a private server for government business and destruction of data with a file shredding program as well as destruction of devices with a hammer were most definitely crimes.

Comey's failure to indict her for them notwithstanding.
Lol......

What were they lying about? And why?

You actually think the problem here is the fact that they lied... When the issue is really what they're lying about, and why they're lying.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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Lol......

What were they lying about? And why?

You actually think the problem here is the fact that they lied... When the issue is really what they're lying about, and why they're lying.


But they weren't charged for what they were lying about, were they?

Because the FBI wanted to make them lie about something, so they could use that charge as leverage to get them to cooperate with the investigation.

This ain't rocket science.
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