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Old 12-21-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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They probably should have just built a wall/fence/physical barrier back in the WPA days from 1935 to 1943, it would have been done already!
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Old 12-21-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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I see, so because Trump said that Mexico is sending us their rapists and criminals and was only referring to the illegal kind (legal immigrants don't get sent they come on their own with papers in hand) and said they aren't all that way that's a good reason not to protect our border from illegal entry no matter who they are????? WTH????? Just when you thought you heard the lamest arguments against the wall this one tops them all!
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Old 12-21-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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if money weren’t an issue, would you support it? (The wall)

Hell no... It is useless from the start at stopping illegals and detrimental to the environment and will cost millions to maintain even if Mexico built it.

Re-read my posts #54 and 101. I guess you don't mind covering the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us though?
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Old 12-21-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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Re-read my posts #54 and 101. I guess you don't mind covering the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us though?
Telling us the same lie over and over again will not make it true. And that’s what the $100 billion number is. A lie. If you had any real economic basis to support the wall, you’d use real numbers instead of posting lies.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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4) Deny their kids our birthright citizenship.


5) Question - how do we prevent the employers from paying cash wages to these illegals which has no paper trail or e-verify to trace?


6) Build the wall because not all illegals are coming here for economic opportunity. Certainly criminals, terrorists and the drug cartels aren't.
Most of the offenders are corporations and have the support of politicians they pay off to hire illegal labor, not small operations. The major offenders are looking for cheap labor in order to reward shareholders of which the CEO is usually a big one. Small operations do not have shareholders.

Good luck with them paying under the table.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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I’ve seen a lot of excuses for not wanting the wall is the price tag. They say it’s a waste of tax payer money. Fair enough. But what if money or your taxes weren’t an issue and it was paid for by somebody else? Would you support it? Or would you still be against it because the more illegals, the better?
The money isn't an issue. It never was. It is all about not giving in.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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Will the maintenance on the wall equal to the over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us? I think not!
As they say, there is no free lunch.
If it costs us $100 billion a year because of greedy employers refusing to foot the bill and using tax payers as their piggy bank, then it will cost employers and shareholders $100 billion a year to do it the legal way.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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I would care if IT PAID ME.

When Texas and Florida do full E-Verify and throw the first dozen prominent employers into jail...then you can talk to me.
Until then I don't believe in deities. I believe in results.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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I would care if IT PAID ME.

When Texas and Florida do full E-Verify and throw the first dozen prominent employers into jail...then you can talk to me.
Until then I don't believe in deities. I believe in results.
I agree
We need to jail employers that hire illegals because they have already shown countless times, if the cost of doing business is cheaper illegally after getting busted and fined, over doing it legally, then that is the route they will take.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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I would support it as long as we aren’t paying for it. But before a wall I want everify and employers punished. And go after people who overstay their visa.

Let me add I don’t agree with taking property to erect the wall either.
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