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I've found many of the arguments tend to lack nuanced styles of thinking. That's alright with me, 'different strokes for different folks' & all, although the loopy logic also tends to lead to mental masturbation techniques rather than insightful dialogue leading to troubleshooting, solving &/or resolving problems. Counterproductive so to speak.
What’s the Matter with Libertarianism?
Its models of human nature and society are terminally deficient.
As for the teenager-ish name-calling? Sheeesh. Also counterproductive imho. Here's an alternative way of continuing the dialogue, more adult-ish, so to speak:
RJ Eskow: 11 Questions to Ask Libertarians to See if They Are Hypocrites
Let’s see one of the hypocrisy test questions: “Is our libertarian willing to acknowledge that workers who bargain for their services, individually and collectively, are also employing market forces?”
The answer is, Duh, of course; however the said collective has no right to force others to join such bargain or prevent others from making their own bargains with the employer individually or collectively.
I've found many of the arguments tend to lack nuanced styles of thinking. That's alright with me, 'different strokes for different folks' & all, although the loopy logic also tends to lead to mental masturbation techniques rather than insightful dialogue leading to troubleshooting, solving &/or resolving problems. Counterproductive so to speak.
What’s the Matter with Libertarianism?
Its models of human nature and society are terminally deficient.
As for the teenager-ish name-calling? Sheeesh. Also counterproductive imho. Here's an alternative way of continuing the dialogue, more adult-ish, so to speak:
RJ Eskow: 11 Questions to Ask Libertarians to See if They Are Hypocrites
Let’s play one more: “Does our libertarian believe in democracy? If yes, explain what’s wrong with governments that regulate.”
The answer is: No, direct democracy is mob rule or slavery which is why we are a constitutional republic. Democracy can only work within a refined constitution. Our constitution doesn’t go far enough to restrain the democracy. For example, personal property should be protected from confiscating, no taxes should be levied on income or personal property, victimless crimes should not be crimes, and government shall not infringe upon peaceful commerce.
There simply isn't a one size fits all, will work no matter what belief. There simply isn't. I've asked many times over how a pure Libertarian society will work and no one, absolutely no one can come anywhere close to providing an answer outside of living like Ted Kaczynski did or going back to something close to the 19th Century. You may like that (you in the big picture) but you don't or you wouldn't be here typing on the internet.
Capitalists love Socialism when it benefits them. Socialists are rarely if ever actually arguing for pure Socialism and Libertarians while absolutely correct on things like war and allowing people many freedoms we try and squash today, can not make their system work in a large society that is not going away.
I don't know why people refuse to accept that no one actually wants what they claim.
Socialism benefits capitalism by slaughtering all the capitalists?
The only people who love socialism are those who seek to enslave others at all cost.
There simply isn't a one size fits all, will work no matter what belief. There simply isn't. I've asked many times over how a pure Libertarian society will work and no one, absolutely no one can come anywhere close to providing an answer outside of living like Ted Kaczynski did or going back to something close to the 19th Century. You may like that (you in the big picture) but you don't or you wouldn't be here typing on the internet.
Capitalists love Socialism when it benefits them. Socialists are rarely if ever actually arguing for pure Socialism and Libertarians while absolutely correct on things like war and allowing people many freedomswe try and squash today, can not make their system work in a large society that is not going away.
I don't know why people refuse to accept that no one actually wants what they claim.
That's because it's impractical and utopian. Looks good on paper though.
Fair point. Some systems don't even look good on paper. We could add fascism to the list.
The statement was simply trying to demonize people for things they don't even believe. It's done quite often by those who can't actually defend what they claim to believe.
Fair point. Some systems don't even look good on paper. We could add fascism to the list.
I am a communist. History disagrees with you. Humans have been communists for thousands of years.
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