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Old 12-29-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You have no right to occupy another country to minimize a risk of terrorist incident on your own soil. What a disgusting thing to say.
We do not ask permissions to take out terrorists who have sworn to kill our people.

No one cares how you feel about it.

Does ISIS have permission to be in Syria? Obviously not, so why are you defending them, and criticizing the US?

 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You should be armed and train your dog to detect explosives, then.
Hmmm.... do away with the military and train our dogs instead,

Trump loyalists are just bursting with great ideas
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Hmmm.... do away with the military and train our dogs instead,

Trump loyalists are just bursting with great ideas
You are going to lose because it is not just "Trump loyalists" that want us out of these stupid wasteful wars.
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Uh...Iraq launched an invasion of Iran in 1980...

1982 was the counter offensive against Iraq. You act like Iran started the war with the 1982 offensive.



Yes you are correct. Iraq invaded first. The point being that Iran was able to infiltrate Iraq and have a strong hold. Iran didn't have nuclear weapons then. One could only imagine what would have happened if it did. Iran supports terrorism. Terrorism can disrupt the flow of oil. That would be bad for our economy. If we leave Iraq vulnerable? Anything can happen. Brookings has an interesting article "Lessons from America's First War with Iran" : " America had no natural partners in the Iran-Iraq war, but its interests dictated that the United States allow neither Saddam nor Khomeini to dominate the region and the world's energy supply. For most of the war it was Iran that appeared on the verge pf victory, so Washington had little choice but to support Iraq." So you see it's irrelevant who started the war, but totally important how it ended. Just as it's in our best interest to ensure that the M.E. oil supply remains stable. Pulling out of the M.E. could be a disaster or it could be a great idea. We won't know until the cards fall on the table. Personally, I wouldn't want to gamble. I'd prefer renewable energy and an electric car. If we didn't need oil, we wouldn't need the M.E.
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You are going to lose because it is not just "Trump loyalists" that want us out of these stupid wasteful wars.
Trump loyalists and some die hard leftists who always wanted all troops in US.
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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Yes you are correct. Iraq invaded first. The point being that Iran was able to infiltrate Iraq and have a strong hold. Iran didn't have nuclear weapons then. One could only imagine what would have happened if it did. Iran supports terrorism. Terrorism can disrupt the flow of oil. That would be bad for our economy. If we leave Iraq vulnerable? Anything can happen. Brookings has an interesting article "Lessons from America's First War with Iran" : " America had no natural partners in the Iran-Iraq war, but its interests dictated that the United States allow neither Saddam nor Khomeini to dominate the region and the world's energy supply. For most of the war it was Iran that appeared on the verge pf victory, so Washington had little choice but to support Iraq." So you see it's irrelevant who started the war, but totally important how it ended. Just as it's in our best interest to ensure that the M.E. oil supply remains stable. Pulling out of the M.E. could be a disaster or it could be a great idea. We won't know until the cards fall on the table. Personally, I wouldn't want to gamble. I'd prefer renewable energy and an electric car. If we didn't need oil, we wouldn't need the M.E.
We armed the terrorists in Syria (and elsewhere). We armed OBL. How exactly is that less evil? When did siding with the enemy of your enemy become a bad thing? Why is it that Iran should be held to a different standard than we hold ourselves?
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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Trump loyalists and some die hard leftists who always wanted all troops in US.
Enough (and growing) to throw elections.
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:27 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Oh, well....the master negotiator managed to make another mess out of a non-issue situation.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-t...-s-withdrawal/

Baghdad -- Iraqi lawmakers Thursday demanded U.S. forces leave the country in the wake of a surprise visit by President Donald Trump that politicians denounced as arrogant and a violation of Iraqi sovereignty.

Politicians from both blocs of Iraq's divided Parliament called for a vote to expel U.S. troops and promised to schedule an extraordinary session to debate the matter.
"Parliament must clearly and urgently express its view about the ongoing American violations of Iraqi sovereignty," said Salam al-Shimiri, a lawmaker loyal to the populist cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
Good. Works for me. More billions to be saved.
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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we can pull all out troops and if they start acting up, a couple b-52
 
Old 12-29-2018, 08:50 AM
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Be gone then. Perhaps an apology as we pack up and leave.
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