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And link after link are posted showing you that walls only work when they can go to another place without a wall, BUT that is merely a matter of convenience as link after link have also been posted showing that when they desire or have no other choice...they go over the wall in less than two minutes on average.
The problem then becomes one of walls previously having been built, not being adequate as compared to the new wall....leaving hundreds of miles of INADEQUATE wall for them to evade the new wall sections to climb over.
So why are there still 5000 migrants in camps in Tijuana? Because they just don't have the desire or the two minutes to spare to go over the wall there? They came 3000 miles with just the clothes on their backs and then suddenly ran out of desperation and drive?
2019 will bring many more. It promises to be very entertaining.
Still did not read the article, did ya? What spin?????
Funny you worry about a lie from trump, but your savior lied AND laughed directly in everyone's faces.....
When trump get lie of the year, like your savior obama...let us know...
BTW...
That's a lot of wall already paid for....well over 200 miles....but, hey, if you want to call that "no wall" then be my quest.....but it's already more than "no wall."
Funny you worry about a lie from trump, but your savior lied AND laughed directly in everyone's faces.....
When trump get lie of the year, like your savior obama...let us know...
BTW...
That's a lot of wall already paid for....well over 200 miles....but, hey, if you want to call that "no wall" then be my quest.....but it's already more than "no wall."
Please, chuck.
Let's stick to current lies. Besides, there are SO MANY MORE now and they're SO much more fun.
Your whimpering about Obama doesn't dovetail with your whining about tRump's big wall failure.
What reason do you have to believe that the experience and habits of many illegals working in the construction industry where I live would be significantly different than illegals working in the construction industry where you live?
Some things that I learned while working and interacting with them that the media won't tell you:
A higher than average number of them are men, most in their 20's and 30's.
Many have no interest in becoming Americans.
Many drive without a license or insurance.
Getting back and forth across the border illegaly isn't that difficult. Once they are here they become immersed in sort of an underground culture that helps one and other with things like taking care of family members and transportation, including border crossings.
They only spend enough money here to support themselves while they're here making money that they send back home or spend when they go back home.
That's why the stereotype of many living in the same house and riding in the same car is actually pretty accurate. And the narrative about how much they contribute to our economy is dubious at best.
It's not unusual for a large group of young men to live in a house with just a few women who cook and take care of the kids.
More of them speak at least rudimentary English than they will sometimes let on and they can be very racist towards blacks and even other Hispanics from different countries or different parts of their own country. The lighter skinned they are, they more likely they are to consider themselves to be "white" and also culturally higher up on their social structure. I don't remember the specifics, but they have their own racial slang for other Hispanics that they don't like or that they consider to be lower than them
Not all of them are the hard workers that the stereotype would have you believe. Many of the ones who come here are, but the ratio of lazy people and criminals etc is pretty much the same as anyone else.
They're not all here "just to make a better life".
A few of the guys I worked with were also involved in some rather nasty stuff, including smuggling and prostitution of underages girls.
There were a few really good people that I met over time that wanted to do things the right way but they just didn't have the means to go through the system.
Unfortunately, they were more the exception than the rule.
The government in Mexico is extremely corrupt.
Getting a student or vacation visa isn't very difficult if you know who to bribe. And once they are here for a certain amount of time, they can apply for what's called a "metricular consular" ....a form of ID issued by the Mexican Consulate that helps them obtain all sorts of benefits including a US issued "taxpayer ID" number...that just happens to be the same number of digits as a Social Security number.
We constantly find stashes of clothing and credit cards (gift cards) out in the desert they use for money laundering of drug money by mules hauling it across.
tRump (and his followers) ain't gettin' that wall.
And that's the name of that tune.
Thank you! Why spend 5 billion on a stupid vanity wall and wait for it to be constructed? Border agents, cell phone towers, surveillance cameras, helicopters, drones and vehicles can provide immediate border security that a medieval border wall cannot provide! Donald Trump is making this medieval border wall a political, campaign and ego issue that Mexico should pay for!
Because there is NO solution that solves 100% of the problem. Any problem. Your logic is to do never attempt to solve any problem, ever.
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Originally Posted by txwolfman
The Border Patrol System could improve to a point that is close to what this stupid wall would do (with a lot less than 5 billion).
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
Are you joking? Are walls, doors, locks 100% effective on everything? The point is to deter as many as possible from entering places they aren't welcomed at, duh. On one sector of the border the barriers there have been 90% effective in deterring illegal entry. That's not good enough for you? That's stupid to you?
On one sector of the border the barriers there have been 90% effective in deterring illegal entry. That's not good enough for you?
Yes, my point exactly. Give the Border Patrol a quarter of the 5 billion and they can do better.
Originally Posted by Oldglory
Are you joking? Are walls, doors, locks 100% effective on everything? The point is to deter as many as possible from entering places they aren't welcomed at, duh. On one sector of the border the barriers there have been 90% effective in deterring illegal entry. That's not good enough for you? That's stupid to you?
If someone wants to compromise your castle, they will do it.
Banks get robbed.
Homes get broken into.
Locks are only to keep honest people honest
Still did not read the article, did ya? What spin?????
Funny you worry about a lie from trump, but your savior lied AND laughed directly in everyone's faces.....
When trump get lie of the year, like your savior obama...let us know...
BTW...
That's a lot of wall already paid for....well over 200 miles....but, hey, if you want to call that "no wall" then be my quest.....but it's already more than "no wall."
there are too many drumfs lies for one to qualify for lie of the year.NOTICE how well that 200 miles of wall worked . BTW I believe there was one savior and he was named Jesus
I guess this is kind of trying to come to terms of 'is the glass half empty or half full'
Trying to mix politics, religion, and common sense is a menu for disaster.
Pick your side of the glass, and hope the Politicians we pay to represent us do the best for us.
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That's stupid to you? 