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Since you only quoted one part of my post about the link, and not the rest of my post, allow me to repeat myself:
AGAIN:
This is what it concludes:
And...
DUH!
But I'm so glad you that used that as your "argument", because what you did was make the damn argument for those of us out here telling you all that many times, it has a LOT to do with circumstances beyond the person's control. In this case, the parents of the person didn't have much money, therefore, it was dang near impossible for the child to get out of that.
What you did here was prove our point. The parents didn't have much money, therefore, the child of those parents didn't have much of a shot moving up the ladder.
WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU FOR PAGES ON END?
I don't know what you're going on about. NO ONE is owed a certain standard of living merely because they exist. If one wishes to climb the socioeconomic ladder, they have to work for it and earn it. Duh.
Why is it the same people who are against Planning Parenthood and were formerly even against birth control of ANY type are now yapping about the results?
Planned Parenthood is fine if they didn't accept medicaid (taxpayer money) for abortions, as they do in about 20 states, including CA, NY, IL, NJ, etc. Abortions are optional and should be paid by the person requesting such.
Planned Parenthood is fine if they didn't accept medicaid (taxpayer money) for abortions, as they do in about 20 states, including CA, NY, IL, NJ, etc. Abortions are optional and should be paid by the person requesting such.
How much does an abortion cost? $3000?
A birth costs around $10,000 (at the VERY least). Plus that much per year in welfare for 18 years. So around $190,000 spent per poor person born. And that's assuming they immediately get off the system for good at age 18.
As a taxpayer, I'd much rather not pay an extra $187,000 just because I want to be a giant hardass about subsidizing abortions.
A birth costs around $10,000 (at the VERY least). Plus that much per year in welfare for 18 years. So around $190,000 spent per poor person born. And that's assuming they immediately get off the system for good at age 18.
As a taxpayer, I'd much rather not pay an extra $187,000 just because I want to be a giant hardass about subsidizing abortions.
Who cares if it costs a dollar or a million? Why should taxpayers pay for your personal needs?
A birth costs around $10,000. Plus that much per year in welfare for 18 years. So around $190,000 spent per poor person born. And that's assuming they immediately get off the system for good at age 18.
As a taxpayer, I'd much rather not pay an extra $187,000 just because I want to be a giant hardass about subsidizing abortions.
That's you. Not every taxpayer condones abortion. Feticide is illegal in most US states, except for the mother. She can kill a fetus, at will. That's a violation of the US Constitution's Equal Protections Clause. Either anyone can kill a fetus, or no one can.
Furthermore, eliminate public assistance for all but the genuinely incapacitated. One's actions yield consequences. It's one's own responsibility to bear the consequences of one's actions. Or are you going to pay the penalty and interest and/or go to prison for me if I don't pay my 5-figure 2018 4th quarter federal income tax estimate this January 15th?
Who cares if it costs a dollar or a million? Why should taxpayers pay for your personal needs?
I'm speaking as a taxpayer, not as someone who needs an abortion. Stop trying to insinuate that anyone who disagrees with your stance is a welfare bum.
It absolutely matters whether it's a dollar or a million when realistically there is zero chance of all government assistance being completely eliminated.
So since we're all going to have to pay for others' bad choices like it or not, the question remains: would you rather pay less or pay more?
I'm speaking as a taxpayer, not as someone who needs an abortion. Stop trying to insinuate that anyone who disagrees with your stance is a welfare bum.
It absolutely matters whether it's a dollar or a million when realistically there is zero chance of all government assistance being completely eliminated.
So since we're all going to have to pay for others' bad choices like it or not, the question remains: would you rather pay less or pay more?
So you would support forced sterilization then? It’s way cheaper.
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