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Old 01-01-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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Since corporations have received such lovely permanent tax cuts, let them pay the Grifter in Chief back by paying to name sections of the wall after themselves as they do with stadiums these days.
Brilliant idea.

 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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It seems to me illegal immigration is much more of a problem to people living in distant places. It's by now a way of life in the border states and you don't sense much of anything when you visit there. Illegal or not, they are well integrated into the fabric of daily life. Could this be that the counties that actually sit on the border mostly went Democrat. You'd think they are the ones who would rise up first.
Texas and Florida - two big states for illegal labor. Both Red for decades......neither will even do E-verify.

You tell me. Why?

Anyone who buys the "GOP is against illegal immigration" line must not read very much or be poor at geography and "the google". States like Texas create and feed the problem MASSIVELY. They do it as a "feature", not a bug. Basically, it is still as "slave" state but just going about it a different way. The illegals bring down the cost of labor in those states so even Americans can't make ends meet.

The first step in solving any problem is to look for the root. I found it in the Government of Texas and Florida, two states that together have about 50 Million residents....so if they did the right thing it would be a big deal.
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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A shame so many Trump supporters aren't aware of that.

And Trump does s good job of selling his supporters the nightmare they believe: "their" America is bring overrun by brown people. I'm sure that probably terrifies many a Trump supporter, which is probably why they want the wall so badly.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump is a horrible, disgusting human being....but he's a GREAT salesman. Very effective at selling lies and fear to his base....they gobble it up.
Well let's analyze that premise he's a "good salesman" shall we?

Would you buy what he's selling? Given his penchant for lying about EVERY SINGLE thing, would you ever be likely to entertain handing money over to the man personally for anything?


Having answered those questions; ask yourself what sets you apart from those who are prepared to, and do regularly "buy" into his nonsense. Oooopsy,…..it's actually not Trump being a good salesman; it's those he's selling to are irrefutably...……..STUPID!


Before knickers get all twisted up.....choosing between the salesman Trump and the alternative presented by the opposition the first time was a crap-shoot of epic proportions in any case, BUT to do it again, if anyone with even a scintilla of preferred features to Hillary.....(.either of the Obama's dogs "Bo" or Sunny come to mind) would merely confirm what the rest of the world takes as immutable...…...some Americans are ineffably STUPID.
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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One reason Trump has stated for the wall to stop the inflow of drugs. However, most smuggled drugs come through legal ports of entry. The reason is a lack of resources (man power and scanning detection devices) at the ports. So a wall would not have a significant impact on drug trafficking.


https://www.factcheck.org/2017/08/wi...rug-smuggling/
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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If the accountants did their job they could point to the savings realized by NAFTA-2 and bank it. As it stands, we know very little about the new deal.
Any $$$$ goes to the businesses involved in the dealings. Regardless of what it s called then or now.
The accountants do , do their job. For their employer.

By the time the businesses pay taxes..it would take a milinium to meet a 5 Billion Dollar gain to US Citizens.

Dont fall for it.
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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One reason Trump has stated for the wall to stop the inflow of drugs. However, most smuggled drugs come through legal ports of entry. The reason is a lack of resources (man power and scanning detection devices) at the ports. So a wall would not have a significant impact on drug trafficking.


https://www.factcheck.org/2017/08/wi...rug-smuggling/
NOTHING will EVER have an impact on the drug traffic.

If we don't know that after the past 50 years....I don't know what will teach it.
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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In addition Mexico will pay for the wall by the money we save that ILLEGAL ALIENS suck from our system, and our tax dollars.
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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Why are Individual 1's tweets breaking news? It's more like fake news or a flat out lie. When will people believe that he can't be trusted? He lies, lies and lies. Yet, people still fall for it. Forget being ashamed of Individual 1. People that believe him should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Why is the wall such a joke to the Dems?

There is a problem at the border. A wall would funnel "migrants" that have a legitimate request for asylum etc.. to places where they could plead their cases instead of trying their luck through more dangerous areas of the border.



I thought the Dems were all about the humanitarian aspect of the "migrants" ? Where is the humanity forcing people to take a dangerous journey and dragging their kids along with them? A wall would stop them from trying and put them in a spot where they could be safe and receive care.

But then again the ones that are risking their lives and trying to bypass our border security know they are breaking the law and that doesn't matter to them because they know if they are caught there are very few penalties for them.



What is happening at the border and happening to our country is not a joke.
No offense, but the reason the wall is a joke is because of people like you freaking out about illegal immigration. When in reality, on Cape Cod and in the rest of the US the only hassle you will ever have with a illegal immigrant is if they forget to bring salsa with your chips at your local mexican restaurant. That’s why it’s a joke.
 
Old 01-01-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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In addition Mexico will pay for the wall by the money we save that ILLEGAL ALIENS suck from our system, and our tax dollars.
Trump is insisting on sucking 5 Billion Tax Dollars for the purchase of cement. It s a deal considering the mob is still likely in the cement business. He knows a guy.
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