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Old 01-13-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I don't care how we do it. SECURE THE BORDER. Enforce immigration law. Other countries do it. Why shouldn't we?

 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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It's funny how Trump supporters always go when there's mention of Trump University. It's one thing that they know there's simply no defense for so they gloss over it every time.
Most people on this forum are smart enough to realize that Trump University has nothing to do with illegal immigration or a wall, the person you're quoting just tossed that comment out because they were trolling and they've proven their TDS level many times here.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:24 PM
 
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There's ZERO chance of Democrats supporting any of those 3 things any more than they support building a wall. How do we get any of that past a group of people who want to build a voter base full of illegals from South America?
We don't have to pass anything to go after employers.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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Nothing about the wall makes any common sense. It's not even physically possible to build a great wall across the southern border. It would just be a massive waste of money and effort that wouldn't curb illegal immigration.

If Trump doesn't go after employers, we will never stop the flow of illegal immigrants. Immigration enforcement needs to focus their energy on going after the Americans that make illegal immigration possible. There's a whole industry that thrives off of exploiting cheap illegal immigrant labor.

They know this, but they refuse to do anything about it.

Oh, geez not this crap again? I've debunked this BS over and over in here with links including those from the Border Patrol and Homeland Security. Do you know better than them?


Did you tell congress that it was a massive waste of money back in 2006 when the actual wall bill was passed? Thought not! It had both Schumer and Obama's signature on it.


Illegal aliens cost us over $100 billion a year. Now tell us how a $25 billion wall is a waste of money.


Trump has e-verify in his 2019 budget and it was the Democrats who voted it down the last time. Under Trump the work place raids have been implemented again which were discontinued under Obama and there have been many employers caught "knowingly" having had illegals working for them and held accountable under the Trump administration. Not all illegals are coming here to work either, thus the wall. Educate yourself before spouting nonsense in here.


https://amac.us/dems-block-gop-bills...al-immigrants/
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:30 PM
 
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There's ZERO chance of Democrats supporting any of those 3 things any more than they support building a wall. How do we get any of that past a group of people who want to build a voter base full of illegals from South America?

Exactly, and the Democrats are also vote pandering to the ethnocentric type of Hispanic citizen who wants amnesty for their illegal amigos and a weak border so that more can enter.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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why do so many people want an open border, even walt disney land has fences , barriers and walls.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Nothing about the wall makes any common sense. It's not even physically possible to build a great wall across the southern border. It would just be a massive waste of money and effort that wouldn't curb illegal immigration.

If Trump doesn't go after employers, we will never stop the flow of illegal immigrants. Immigration enforcement needs to focus their energy on going after the Americans that make illegal immigration possible. There's a whole industry that thrives off of exploiting cheap illegal immigrant labor.

They know this, but they refuse to do anything about it.

That alone won't help.

https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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We'll have to build the wall to see if it works.

Actually-no we won't. We built 650 miles of "wall"...and illegal crossings dropped over 50%. We KNOW walls work-so liberals can't hide behind the "it won't work" lie. Their fear is that it WILL work. That it will reduce crime, reduce the number of Americans victimized by criminal aliens and increase wages and employment for Americans.

Much of those miles are not the type of barrier that congress passed in 2006. There is still a lot of flimsy fencing that needs fixing. Imagine if that were done how much higher of a percentage there would be in the reduction of illegal entry. A sector in Yuma has reduced illegal entry by 90% San Diego is another area that has seen a significant drop in illegal entry with the good barriers in place. I have provided several links proving how well the good barriers work. If that lie doesn't work for the lefty liberals then they fall back on the "oh but it's too expensive to build" BS, I'd say a $25 billion wall is far less than the over $100 billion that illegal aliens cost us.
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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Kind of like gun regulations and laws huh?

So, nothing. SAD, but expected..
 
Old 01-13-2019, 05:43 PM
 
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The vast majority of people who scam their way into the United States come here to get legitimate jobs. If we cracked down on employers, they would not be able to do that, and illegal immigration would slow to a trickle. There would be a mass exodus of illegal aliens if the threat to employers was real. Mothers wouldn't even come here to give birth if we made it impossible for them to find work.

Drug trafficking is actually a different issue, that's small part of the problem we have. Building a wall just to stop that won't change much.

These mothers giving birth on our soil don't need to find work. One or two anchors and they can collect all kinds of welfare freebies through them including Section 8 housing and food stamps.
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