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Old 01-04-2019, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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And it worked. Early on evangelicals weren't fully on board with Trump but that all changed when he picked Pence. They liked his anti-LGBT bill in Indiana.
While I'd agree with you that Pence did help with the evangelicals, his anti-LBGT stances hurt him for his reelection campaign as governor of IA. Which pushed him to consider running with Trump because, he didn't have much to lose at that time.
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Oh god forbid there is a politician in power that believes in abstinence. The absolute horror that you won't have a proponent in office to help facilitate reckless sex from children. You people are absolute Authoritarians and sexual deviants. Almost everything in Leftist circles revolves around some sort of sex act or sexual innuendo. BTW, condoms are readily available to all now and have been for many decades.
Ha on sex is now a deviancy? Lol!
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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While I'd agree with you that Pence did help with the evangelicals, his anti-LBGT stances hurt him for his reelection campaign as governor of IA. Which pushed him to consider running with Trump because, he didn't have much to lose at that time.

Indiana, not Iowa.
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Indiana, not Iowa.
Whoops - it should be IN, not IA.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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It take it, you completely missed the context in which Pence made those remarks.

Do you think your teenage kids should practice abstinence or go out and have all the sex they want as long as they use a condom?


The person who wrote that hit piece was hoping you didn't actually read what Pence wrote and he seems to hit the mark. Your broad based negative generality against millions of people speaks for itself where the problem lies.
You're right I didn't read it. That you think the stated beliefs of conservative Christians is negative is your interpretation it certainly isn't mine.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You'd be surprised how few conservative Christians agree with that view. Catholics, in the other hand, have an issue with contraceptives.
A majority believe it and it goes beyond Catholics. The Duggars are a famous example.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Trump won’t make it that long if Muller finds something on him.



Again politics and religion do not mix. Period.
Politics, religion and the economy are intertwined in many ways. They form the basis of any state to be frank.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progre...ontent=Jan2018

After reading this maybe we should just let Trump finish his term. Pence worries me here.

At the same time Pence is an idiot for thinking that teenagers are not going to have sex. Prayer isn’t going to keep them from getting an STD or from getting pregnant.
Taking that on face value that is a pretty crazy thing to say. Pence is a major major political hack. He can never answer a question straight, even from friendly sources he just jumps into talking points mode, and I know all politician do it, he's just seem more obvious in how he does it to me.

I really do my best to be a guy that supports all of the freedoms with religious and speech being important ones. I'm not a Christian but I usually full on support their rights but this condoms are too liberal thing is troubling to say the least.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I’ll never understand why Evangelicals like Pence are against condoms, they have helped to save lives and prevent pregnancies. Is he actually for STD’s, HIV, and underaged kids having babies? I actually think that every school should be offering free condoms because young people are going to have sex whether he believes it or not. Praying doesn’t work.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:05 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I’ll never understand why Evangelicals like Pence are against condoms, they have helped to save lives and prevent pregnancies. Is he actually for STD’s, HIV, and underaged kids having babies? I actually think that every school should be offering free condoms because young people are going to have sex whether he believes it or not. Praying doesn’t work.
Catholics have been practicing some form of birth control for years and everyone knows it. The church just looks the other way while giving some lips service about not taking preventative measures.

A huge factor in poverty stricken places is the high birth rates and it just doesn't help having too many babies. "Morality" and all of that needs to take a backseat in my opinion in dealing with this issue.

No glove, no love baby.
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