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And all that is different than the current Progressive Liberal philosophy.....
How exactly?
I never said that there weren't similarities at both extremes of the political spectrum (on the Far Right and Far Left) with activists wanting to suppress dissenting viewpoint with varying levels of forcefulness.
Even if someone does tend to think more in line with one viewpoint or another, not everyone is to a far extreme.
It's the people who can only think in terms of extremes and "my way or the highway" who make me wary.
You mean except for farmers and other 'receivers of subsidies' (some in Congress)?
The GOP has even approved extra subsidies this year to replace income lost because of the boner moves of the Republican president to replace income lost by the president? And I have a feeling they aren't the only ones being hurt. Trump will not be able to pay them all off.
Pray tell--how is all of that "expecting individuals to for provide for themselves"? Why are we giving them taxpayer money? It sounds like socialism.
The GOP and the President are an abortion of principals.
I never said that there weren't similarities at both extremes of the political spectrum (on the Far Right and Far Left) with activists wanting to suppress dissenting viewpoint with varying levels of forcefulness.
Even if someone does tend to think more in line with one viewpoint or another, not everyone is to a far extreme.
It's the people who can only think in terms of extremes and "my way or the highway" who make me wary.
Mmm...hmm.
Except that the view expressed of Conservatives is a sort of caricature of one type of Conservatives.... namely old school fundamentalist Christians, which hold less and less influence over the Right in general with each passing dacade.
There are many types of Conservatives....all of which don't all think or vote in lockstep the way that the current crop of Alinsky worshipping Progressives do.
OP is trying to delineate the difference between two terms, neither of which he seems to have defined. This could be the definition of "exercise in futility."
We might as well ask, "What's the difference between 'waeporjwr' and 'zxpcoivccu?'
'Fascism' could be defined by referring to the words of Mussolini, who coined the word 'fascism.' As for 'right wing populism,' that could mean whatever you want it to mean.
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Mmm...hmm.
Except that the view expressed of Conservatives is a sort of caricature of one type of Conservatives.... namely old school fundamentalist Christians, which hold less and less influence over the Right in general with each passing dacade.
There are many types of Conservatives....all of which don't all think or vote in lockstep the way that the current crop of Alinsky worshipping Progressives do.
It doesn't have to involve old-school fundamentalists one bit. In fact, most (not all, of course, but most) of my post on this board have to do with conservative social attitudes and policies (some of them clearly non-Biblical or non contemporary Evangelical/Fundamentalist). This is especially true with Social Darwinism and contempt for "unmanliness" in the "lacking Alpha macho traits" sense (both, btw, are obviously opposed by strongly believing Christians). There's plenty of socially conservative beliefs that have nothing to do with Christianity in general, let alone Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christianity.
OP is trying to delineate the difference between two terms, neither of which he seems to have defined. This could be the definition of "exercise in futility."
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We might as well ask, "What's the difference between 'waeporjwr' and 'zxpcoivccu?'
'Fascism' could be defined by referring to the words of Mussolini, who coined the word 'fascism.' As for 'right wing populism,' that could mean whatever you want it to mean.
OP is trying to delineate the difference between two terms, neither of which he seems to have defined. This could be the definition of "exercise in futility."
No, I didn't--I only read post #1, so thank you for the link. However, those are not definitions, those are observation points. I had a friend who liked to use the term "neocon." Once I asked him to define it, and he answered, "It's the people you see on Fox News." That was not a definition; it was just a loose litany of purported examples.
Secondly your litany regarding fascism does not comport with Mussolini's views on fascism. He coined the term, so it is his views that should supply the definition of the term.
It doesn't have to involve old-school fundamentalists one bit. In fact, most (not all, of course, but most) of my post on this board have to do with conservative social attitudes and policies (some of them clearly non-Biblical or non contemporary Evangelical/Fundamentalist). This is especially true with Social Darwinism and contempt for "unmanliness" in the "lacking Alpha macho traits" sense (both, btw, are obviously opposed by strongly believing Christians). There's plenty of socially conservative beliefs that have nothing to do with Christianity in general, let alone Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christianity.
OP is trying to delineate the difference between two terms, neither of which he seems to have defined. This could be the definition of "exercise in futility."
We might as well ask, "What's the difference between 'waeporjwr' and 'zxpcoivccu?'
'Fascism' could be defined by referring to the words of Mussolini, who coined the word 'fascism.' As for 'right wing populism,' that could mean whatever you want it to mean.
The point is that the Right is made up of more than one type of "Conservative".
Old school fundamentalist, neo-cons, Libertarian minded, Constitutionalists, social cons, fiscal cons, classic Liberals, etc....
There's really a lot more diversity on the Right of the spectrum than the Left likes to admit....
It's easier for them to lump them all together as the "Religious Right" or a monolithic group of knuckle dragging rednecks....... and that's just not the case.
Biggest difference between fascists and todays "trumpism?...
easy the number of letters. Otherwise there is very little distance between Trumpism and fascism.
History will write up Trump and Trumpism as the lowest point in US history AND as the point where we threw away our global leadership and 75 year old partnership ..
I love the way you progressives engage in hysteria and hyperbole! During the Bush years you derided that man as "Hitler" incessantly. Now you love him.
Fascism is embodied by Progressives at this point in history. Populism isn't "right wing", it's just anti-globalist one world government stuff. Remember when everyone said that was just a conspiracy theory by tin foil hat wearing crazy people? Apparently not completely, as we've found out.
Why you so hateful against people who like their country and want to keep it strong and healthy anyway? There's a lot we can do within the framework of the Constitution and the society we've built, but when you want to blow it up because you don't like this or that you are the baddie.
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