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that would be classic. we'd need scuba suits to navigate all the liberal tears.
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Originally Posted by Reads2MUCH
Your hatred is showing and clouding your judgement sir. Trump made a wise concession, choosing to wait and deliver his address until the government is up and running again. And let's face it, if he stood his ground and went ahead with the address at another location, which he could absolutely do, you'd be calling him names and talking about what an idiot he is. But, since he actually did concede to wait to deliver the address, you now get to basically portray him as weak and say things like he "bowed" to Pelosi. So, as usual, there is no right way for the president in the eyes of those who blindly oppose him. He will be painted in the worst light by them no matter what he chooses to do.
Apparently the Emperor is no match for Speaker of the House.
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor
She definitely kicked his hind end.
People are completely delusional if they think this is a victory for Pelosi.
Trump has made the very shrewd calculation that Pelosi inviting him during the shutdown and then uninviting him during the shutdown reflects very badly on her and shows it as a political move/stunt with something that is not supposed to be partisan.
So if he stands his ground he's a spoiled baby and if he gives in he's a loser...got it! You guys just admitted that it doesn't matter what he does...you just hate him no matter what! Who is the loser?
People are completely delusional if they think this is a victory for Pelosi.
Trump has made the very shrewd calculation that Pelosi inviting him during the shutdown and then uninviting him during the shutdown reflects very badly on her and shows it as a political move/stunt with something that is not supposed to be partisan.
A pyrrhic victory indeed.
LOL. A "shrewd calculation" after Pelosi told him firmly that no, he was not going to be allowed to give the speech while the government was shut down, even when he tried to insist he would.
Yeah, that's shrewd all right, backing down because you have absolutely no other recourse. That's not a calculation, that's an admission of defeat.
Your hatred is showing and clouding your judgement sir. Trump made a wise concession, choosing to wait and deliver his address until the government is up and running again. And let's face it, if he stood his ground and went ahead with the address at another location, which he could absolutely do, you'd be calling him names and talking about what an idiot he is. But, since he actually did concede to wait to deliver the address, you now get to basically portray him as weak and say things like he "bowed" to Pelosi. So, as usual, there is no right way for the president in the eyes of those who blindly oppose him. He will be painted in the worst light by them no matter what he chooses to do.
And referring to the part of your post I placed in bold, you are absolutely right. Trump cannot make her invite him to speak in the house. However, building on that, Mrs. Pelosi also cannot stop the president from delivering his address if he desires to do so. He could have simply chosen another venue from which to deliver his address. He did not do this because of Pelosi. He did this because he wants to deliver his address when the government is up and running again. Your spin is just that, spin. Rooted in nothing more than your personal disdain for the president.
What "clouding" of my judgement was that?
I simply stated FACTS.
Pelosi invited Trump to give the SOTU to Congress - FACT
Trump shut the government down - FACT
Pelosi declined to invite Trump to speak until after the government reopened - FACT
Trump tried to bully her by saying IN A JAN 23rd LETTER that he was planning on coming ANYWAY - FACT
Pelosi replied back once again that Trump would not be allowed to give his speech until the government reopened - FACT
TRUMP looked into other venues but eventually decided no - FACT
Trump agreed to postpone the SOTU - FACT
Trump bowed to Pelosi's wishes (as if he had a choice in the matter) - FACT
How is ANY of reflective of "clouded judgement". That's just the way things ARE.
Trump bowed.
The fact that you may not LIKE the fact that Trump bowed doesn't change that.
Trump tried to bully Pelosi and barge his way into a SOTU address in the House - and Pelosi stood her ground and said NO.
Trump bowed.
It's fun to watch you guys gloat...because when all is said and done you will be eating crow...as usual...Trump plays 4D chess and you guys get all giddy when you take a pawn only to find you placed yourself in check!
Queue Trump can't even spell chess comments in 3...2...
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