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Old 01-06-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: SC
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Hmm. Nope.

Looks like it's just the opinion of just one woman on what might happen. She doesn't back it up with any scientific analysis. The National Review is a Never Trumper rag.

But here's the question, why do you guys hope as hard as you can that America fails?
Wrong again Waldo... And it is ironic that you claim that "she doesn't back it up" when you spread as many lies as your imperious leader - and almost never offer any facts.
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Old 01-06-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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Don't you people ever get tired of blaming the other party? Both sides are for the rich. Nafta 2.0 has some good things and some bad, but that's not the issue. The problem is that the newer deal, just like it's predecessor (all trade policy for that matter) serves big business and hurts the average person at the international level.
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Old 01-06-2019, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...reement-usmca/

Analysts say there really were no substantive improvements for America so, what was the point of all this chaos?

Analysts will say anything you pay them to say. Just like pollsters.
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Old 01-06-2019, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Trump is failing. Thankfully our country and govt is stronger then Trump.


Trump failing does not mean we the people fail. We just work harder while Trump runs away.
Trump is only failing in your mind. The new trade deal, while has many minor changes they all end up benefiting the United States. Like anything else, time will tell.
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Analysts will say anything you pay them to say. Just like pollsters.
And some posters on City-Data.
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Yep. No need to look any deeper for the reason, OP. Once you understand this, you understand Trump's entire presidency.

Yep, little Donny Trump had it in for anything related to Obama, and I know when that anger started:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHckZCxdRkA

What a vindictive little man Trump is. Same reason he killed our ability to travel freely to Cuba, no good reason, other than to spite Obama.
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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Yep, little Donny Trump had it in for anything related to Obama, and I know when that anger started:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHckZCxdRkA

What a vindictive little man Trump is. Same reason he killed our ability to travel freely to Cuba, no good reason, other than to spite Obama.
That video never gets old. He just sits there while Obama roasts him, then goes on to take his old job and nearly undo his entire legacy
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Hmm. Nope.

Looks like it's just the opinion of just one woman on what might happen. She doesn't back it up with any scientific analysis. The National Review is a Never Trumper rag.

But here's the question, why do you guys hope as hard as you can that America fails?

Everyone is saying the same thing. Economists. Congress.

Here's the thing, Trump can call it a win (because he calls everything a win), and I will call it a win, because he did very little damage, and that's a miracle. Same thing with the negotiations with S Korea, he claimed a big win over something that is almost non-existent. But he didn't make our trade war worse, so I'm good with him calling it a win.

The man has no clue, and his cultists don't seem to have a clue either and they believe whatever he says.

For once, it isn't destroying our economy.
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Old 01-06-2019, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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What a vindictive little man Trump is. Same reason he killed our ability to travel freely to Cuba, no good reason, other than to spite Obama.
Thanks for the reminder. I'm sitting by the fire, good single-malt by my side, and I just might light up a fine handmade Havana cigar.

Other than that, NAFTA 2.0. or USMCA (in the US), or CUSMA (as it is being called in Canada) is not much different than it was before. Not sure why we had to spend 18 months or so to get back to where we already were, but there you go.

Oh wait. We Canadians can now get $150 in goods from Amazon, duty-free; rather than $20. Other than that, not much has changed.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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That video never gets old. He just sits there while Obama roasts him, then goes on to take his old job and nearly undo his entire legacy

Yep. In that video, we are seeing history unfold. Obama getting even with Trump for all those years of promoting that stupid "birther" nonsense, and Trump, sitting there stewing, angry, and thinking "You SOB, I will get back at you some day !"

It became obvious, to anyone with two connected brain cells , that EVERYTHING Trump did in the first couple of years in office was simply done to rub Obama's nose in the dirt. Stupid stuff, like stopping Americans from freely traveling to Cuba, reversing the Paris climate accords, and killing DACA. These, and about 20 more "actions" taken by Trump, had zero to do with improving America, and everything to do with trying to eliminate any trace of the Obama Presidency.

None of the acts taken by Trump had any real substance to them, they were just a game played by a spoiled rotten, small minded little man, who has way too much time on his small hands. And some Trumpees wonder why we have such a strong disdain for the jerk.
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