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Old 01-06-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Outside US
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/governm...-funding-usda/

Another important lesson for Americans to understand, that politicians won’t save you (nor the government) when the crap hits the fan. One must be self sufficient, self reliant, and independent to avoid such situations.
So, true.

People who expect to get Medicare at 65 and/or SS at X years-old.

Should heed this.

 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:53 PM
 
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Or if you have some kind of illness where you can't work and need help. There are nasty people in this world who only care about the rich , strong and powerful. The best is when they say they are Christians.
People both physically and mentally unable to wok deserve to be taken care of.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/governm...-funding-usda/

Another important lesson for Americans to understand, that politicians won’t save you (nor the government) when the crap hits the fan. One must be self sufficient, self reliant, and independent to avoid such situations.
Sometimes one can't help that one needs help. There are such things as unforeseen circumstances. Good for you that you've never needed that help.

Besides, these people have jobs. So how much more can they do to become self-reliant? What if your boss came in said no more paycheck for you? I guess you've a gazillionaire and wouldn't miss a beat.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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People both physically and mentally unable to wok deserve to be taken care of.
and many states have laws that people collecting benefits must work. so what's the issue? If we have to pay for someone to send their kid to daycare and spend $500 a week for them to work a job where they earn $200 and qualify for other benefits it's cheaper for them to stay home.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:59 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Yes, we'll give growing children one meal a day. That ought to hold them. And they can fast on the weekends. It will be good for their growing bodies, right?

How many meals have you eaten already today?
The government shutdown isn't going to last forever. And a side benefit should be that those on food stamps might actually lose the weight that they need to.

BTW I work a side job in catering. I get a free meal with every shift and get to take some of the extra food home with me. My grocery bill is close to nil because of that. And of what I do buy, rice and pasta is very cheap. Eggs are cheap too. I buy meat that needs to be sold that day, so the packages at the grocery store have a discount coupon on them. There is also a sale fresh vegetable rack and also one for dented cans. And I need to live frugally because of NH's high property tax bills (which fund public schooling and I have no children).
 
Old 01-06-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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May I ask why people have children that they can’t even feed? Shouldn’t they be charged with child abuse?
Did you know that sometimes people have children before they know they can't feed them? What about the children of the folks laid off and unpaid from the shutdown? So those folks should have prepared better?
 
Old 01-06-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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The government shutdown isn't going to last forever. And a side benefit should be that those on food stamps might actually lose the weight that they need to.
You win the prize for one of the most ignorant statements today.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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Did you know that sometimes people have children before they know they can't feed them?
Often they have kids when they already can't afford those they have. They are relying on the Productive members of society to keep funding their irresponsibility.
 
Old 01-06-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I agree Walmart is the biggest abuser.

This said, when my brother was in the Marine corps, he always had spending money every month. You do not get rich while serving in the military, but there is no way you can be poor or starving. They have food and housing provided. If they decided to marry young and had bunch of kids too quickly, maybe they only have themselves to blame.
personal responsibility is like kryptonite to progressives
 
Old 01-06-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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Often they have kids when they already can't afford those they have. They are relying on the Productive members of society to keep funding their irresponsibility.
Of course they do. But one can't just paint with a broad brush.
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