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Old 01-08-2019, 07:39 AM
 
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Why do you call yourself an indentured servant? Is you entire identity wrapped up in victimhood? I could easily choose the name "descendant of Holocaust victims," but my family didn't think like that. Despite unspeakable horrors, my grandparents - who lost their parents and siblings - focused on what it takes to move forward:

1. A determination to have children within marriage
2. Delayed gratification and sacrifice for higher education

So, I've said this before and I'll say it again: my grandparents arrived here with the clothes on their back and not even a high school diploma. Yet, one generation later, all their kids (my parents and aunts/uncles) all had college degrees. From dirt-poor immigrants in tenements (generation 1) to college-educated professionals with homes in nice suburbs (generation 2).

This constant fixation on what is owed you and how wronged your ancestors were isn't helping you - it's turning you into a bitter man. Just focus on what black people themselves can do to help themselves, encourage that, and you'll be much better off than demanding reparations or whatever.

Yep....and we have those stories in the black community also...people who are descended from brutal slavery, Jim Crow cotton fields of Jim Crow Mississippi, to urban ghettos in Chicago and Detroit....and yet have risen to become executives. We do not need YOUR story or the story of some other ethnics, we have those stories within our people as well.



That having been said. Some people made it out of the Twin Towers when the airplanes hit on 911, thousands of others perished, however. Would you say the fact that some survived meant ALL should have survived it, if everyone would have simply been personally responsible like those who did survive? What about the Vietnam war. Over 60,000 Americans lost their lives I believe. More, however, came back alive. Would you tell someone who has lost a loved one to war, or who has come back maimed or mentally unstable from war, that "your son went to war and came back just fine"......in a way to suggest that the people who were lost or maimed by war only have themselves to blame? I mean......if someone's son came back fine from war, does that make those who did not less "victims" and to made to feel at fault because "You have family that went to war....and despite that, are living productive members of society".

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Old 01-08-2019, 07:40 AM
 
Location: IL
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September 18, 2017

Americans, especially wealthy whites, vastly overestimate progress toward racial economic equality despite evidence of persistent gaps between black and white workers when it comes to hourly wages, annual income and household wealth, according to a new paper by Yale University researchers published Monday.

The study’s results are especially stunning in the wake of census data released last week that showed that African Americans were the only racial group still making less than they did in 2000.

The average black household made 60 percent of what white households made in 2016 and less than half of what Asians made, according to census data. For every $100 of wealth accumulated by a white family, a black family has little more than $5 -- a gap just as wide as it was 50 years ago, according to federal statistics cited by the Yale researchers.

[African Americans are the only racial group in U.S. still making less than they did in 2000]

Yet both black and white Americans of all income levels remain profoundly unaware of the economic inequality between the two groups, said the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The misperceptions could negatively affect public policy as the country grows more diverse, researchers said, with politicians championing misguided legislation rooted in false impressions.

“This is evidence that our beliefs about racial progress and economic equality are fairly inconsistent with reality,” said Jennifer Richeson, a Yale psychology professor who co-wrote the study. “The magnitude of the misperception is shocking, and it’s an obstacle to actually achieving the progress that everyone seems to be celebrating.”

White people are really confident that things are getting better for black people
Honest question, do you support reparations for slavery?
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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The unemployment rate for black Americans is the lowest it's ever been in recorded history.

I consider that some sort of progress.

Nope. It was lower during the "full employment" of slavery.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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September 18, 2017

Americans, especially wealthy whites, vastly overestimate progress toward racial economic equality despite evidence of persistent gaps between black and white workers when it comes to hourly wages, annual income and household wealth, according to a new paper by Yale University researchers published Monday.

The study’s results are especially stunning in the wake of census data released last week that showed that African Americans were the only racial group still making less than they did in 2000.

The average black household made 60 percent of what white households made in 2016 and less than half of what Asians made, according to census data. For every $100 of wealth accumulated by a white family, a black family has little more than $5 -- a gap just as wide as it was 50 years ago, according to federal statistics cited by the Yale researchers.

[African Americans are the only racial group in U.S. still making less than they did in 2000]

Yet both black and white Americans of all income levels remain profoundly unaware of the economic inequality between the two groups, said the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The misperceptions could negatively affect public policy as the country grows more diverse, researchers said, with politicians championing misguided legislation rooted in false impressions.

“This is evidence that our beliefs about racial progress and economic equality are fairly inconsistent with reality,” said Jennifer Richeson, a Yale psychology professor who co-wrote the study. “The magnitude of the misperception is shocking, and it’s an obstacle to actually achieving the progress that everyone seems to be celebrating.”

White people are really confident that things are getting better for black people



The good thing about the left's culture of victimhood is that it vacates personal responsibility. No longer does one consider lack of education, poor work ethic, or lack of sobriety as a cause for failure. We now have to simply check one of the convenient excuses for failure that blames external forces outside of our control!


race


da man suppressing the balance of the populace through cheating


sex


sexual preference



the law discriminating against everyone but white males



Simply check a box on the "victim page" and suddenly you are absolved of any failures in your life. It is the leftist equivalent of "confession" or being "baptized" in the church of liberalism. As long as there are plenty of excuses for failure, one will seek them and avoid introspection and vacate personal responsibility.


I wonder how in the world we account for all the blacks who are successful? Oh............ that's right............. they are just "Uncle Toms".
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Race card in the left pocket. Victim card in the right pocket. If one falls out you have a backup.

The liberals need blacks to be poor little victims who can't get anywhere with out mommy government holding their hand. It's the liberals who are the bigots.

Libs look at a person, and all they see is their skin color. Even Obama, who was the president of the US, was never anything to the left but a poor, set upon black victim. So, it does not matter what you achieve to the left, they will only ever see a poor, set upon, black victim. They put you in a box, and list all your assumed weaknesses. To the left, skin color defines everything about you. There is nothing you can do to climb out of that box they put you in.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:44 AM
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Location: On the Border
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The good thing about the left's culture of victimhood is that it vacates personal responsibility.

...
Tell that to all the dead, young, unarmed black guys. Oh, wait...
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You forgot the "Nine" in the small of my back
And you neglected to ask why this income disparity exists.

Top reasons:

Fatherlessness

Drug abuse

Felony convictions

Poor academic performance

etc.


Not making the list:

White people
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:45 AM
 
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Honest question, do you support reparations for slavery?

I support the acknowledgment that the root of the socioeconomic differential between blacks and white America is rooted in the centuries of racial oppression and discrimination against black people, which included, but was not limited to, slavery. To the degree that the American government formally acknowledged such, that is the reparations I support. The REPAIRING of the knowledge of how it came to this situation. Ergo, reparations.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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Yep....and we have those stories in the black community also...people who are descended from brutal slavery, Jim Crow cotton fields of Jim Crow Mississippi, to urban ghettos in Chicago and Detroit....and yet have risen to become executives. We do not need YOUR story or the story of some other ethnics, we have those stories within our people as well.



That having been said. Some people made it out of the Twin Towers when the air planes hit, thousands of others perished. Would you say the fact that some survived meant ALL should have survived, if everyone would have simply been personally responsible? What about the Vietnam war. Over 60,000 Americans lost their lives I believe. More, however, came back alive. Would you tell someone who has lost a loved one to war, or who has come back maimed or mentally unstable from war, that "your son went to war and came back just fine"......in a way to suggest that the people who were lost or maimed by war only have themselves to blame? I mean......if someone's son came back fine from war, does that makes those who did not less "victims".
Your analogies aren't equivalent at all.

You don't like to hear it, but black people could solve at least half of their problems by emphasizing the need to have children after marriage - and seeing that it happens. Way too much out-of-wedlock births to ever escape poverty, as a whole.

1. Finish high school
2. Don't have babies as an unwed teen and/or until you can support them without government assistance

Tada!
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The article is dated September 18, 2017--anything more recent?
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