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The logical conclusion is that you are saying racism produced no ill impact upon blacks.....not even to their mindset. The lagging condition of blacks socioeconomically, therefore, can on be an INFERIOR NATURE....given that NOTHING ELSE is holding blacks back. But that is not racist to belief
Hey....maybe if there was not a history of racism.....people like me would not have the "race card" to use as a crutch. Well.....even if I am using it as a crutch.......racism provided the crutch for me to use. Again, actions have consequences.
no I didn't say that not even close....you refuse to read and learn from anyone who is trying to help you understand.
Like I said, I go to a church that is 75% black...and our minister talks about this all the time....poor me, pity me, I'm like this b/c of slavery....NO your not...one has to help themselves, and let go of the past....it's about today...and today could be a new start of your life.
Stop putting words in my mouth...I believe American's and black people both are sick of hearing this....so keep on smacking yourself, maybe you'll get it? Probably not...you want to hold onto racism....and blame whites for where you are not.
Yes, I concur. I'm Asian American and I'm just tired of these folks who pull out the model minority card to "pat me on the head" condenscendingly.
a very dear friend of mine is Asian, and she is amazing, I wish I could be more like her, she is a walking encyclopedia.
She came to this country, while living with relative, got a job, learned the language and put her self through college and became an American Citizen. That isn't condescending, that is an incredible accomplishment to be very proud of....I consider Asian's to be amazing people, and I love their old fashioned ways. So, if you find that condescending I'm very sorry...you feel that way...you should be very proud of your race.
Sure there is poverty in all races, but I view Asians as being highly intelligent, with a hunger for knowledge that are a humble and diverse intellectually skilled people...
My friend is a fantastic mother, daughter, wife and friend...
you don't like it, then I'd be willing to say, that's your problem...b/c I have always views Asians with respect.
You can't start of with an implicit premise that we are all the same essentially (in regards to smarts, hard working, motivated), then dismiss the socioeconomic racial inequality that exists. We are all the same. It's easy....
I both can and will. The con men that promote BS like "socioeconomic racial inequality" are doing nothing more than preying on and in some form profiting from the crap they promote. It doesn't matter if it's yourself, Al Sharpton or Barack Obama selling that to ignorant blacks (a very small subset of blacks in this nation), the KKK selling the same garbage to ignorant whites-or some socialist wannabe trying to blame business owners, "the rich" and capitalism for their failures while demanding "free chit". You are all doing exactly the same thing. Enabling failures, encouraging them not to better themselves, but to blame others. To accept failure, rather than to work, to prosper and to get ahead. To embrace irresponsible, destructive behavior, instead of effort and education. To expect others to provide for them, rather than becoming independent adults. You are preying on and enhancing the suffering of the very people you claim to try to speak for.
a very dear friend of mine is Asian, and she is amazing, I wish I could be more like her, she is a walking encyclopedia.
She came to this country, while living with relative, got a job, learned the language and put her self through college and became an American Citizen. That isn't condescending, that is an incredible accomplishment to be very proud of....I consider Asian's to be amazing people, and I love their old fashioned ways. So, if you find that condescending I'm very sorry...you feel that way...you should be very proud of your race.
Sure there is poverty in all races, but I view Asians as being highly intelligent, with a hunger for knowledge that are a humble and diverse intellectually skilled people...
My friend is a fantastic mother, daughter, wife and friend...
you don't like it, then I'd be willing to say, that's your problem...b/c I have always views Asians with respect.
Uh no. I'm pretty darned proud of my heritage and my accomplishments and my family. So stop right there.
My point is, I roll my eyes at non-Asians (mostly white folks) who try to use our group collectively as racial mascots, through anecdotes or statistics that don't tell the whole story, for partisan political talking points directed at other communities when the reality is a lot more nuanced.
Could it be that the gap is because the dysfunctional blacks are having many more children than the functional blacks? Successful and educated blacks tend to be couples with only one of two children. But the blacks who are trapped in the cycle of poverty are unmarried and with many children from many different partners. The impoverished blacks are just breeding and multiplying faster than the functional blacks in our country.
And it's the same reason why Third World Countries are falling farther and farther behind the First World Countries. Third World Countries are producing more babies per couple and creating a situation where they don't have enough resources to all eat properly and can't improve the quality of their lives. So many families in these countries have five or more children to try to raise. And many of their kids before they reach adulthood.
To an extent-we, whites, do bear some responsibility for that, starting in the mid-60s. They (whites in positions of political power at the time) accepted that minorities were somehow inferior and not as capable of providing for themselves as whites. They implemented policies of the "Great Society" to "help" these helpless people. They established policies that encouraged the breakup of families, that made 2-parent families seem unnecessary and redundant. They implemented policies that encouraged irresponsible breeding that resulted in single mothers with multiple children. Men came to be viewed as sperm donors, not as providers and as role models. This hit ALL races. Sadly it hit blacks perhaps more than others. At least in part this was due to people like the OP and the dominant liberal attitudes at that time that deflected blame and responsibility from the individual to others.
The sad and pathetic irony is that those promoting these policies have exactly the same mentality of those that promoted and tried to "justify" slavery. That blacks are somehow inferior, incapable of providing for themselves and advancing, and dependant on "elite whites" to know what's best for them and ensure that they are "taken care of". Disgusting mentality for those that see people of all races as equal, capable, productive human beings. Fortunately, the vast majority of people of all races reject that kind of racist thinking. It takes the "race profiteers" such as the OP, and a portion of American liberals, to embrace and promote that kind of thinking.
Last edited by Toyman at Jewel Lake; 01-10-2019 at 12:59 PM..
When did YOU fight for the war for American independence? Do you enjoy that independence today? How...when you were not there? Let me guess...."it's not the same thing"{said in a liars way}
I’m old but not that old. But we are actually as much enslaved today in many ways as the colonists that fought that war! Just a different “king”. Those brave men and women would have already taken up arms again, but I digress.
The difference between you and me is that I don’t try to blame somebody else for everything that goes wrong! The other difference is that I haven’t been given the option of all the social programs that you have! LOL. Whine on!
]Could it be that the gap is because the dysfunctional blacks are having many more children than the functional blacks?[/b] Successful and educated blacks tend to be couples with only one of two children. But the blacks who are trapped in the cycle of poverty are unmarried and with many children from many different partners. The impoverished blacks are just breeding and multiplying faster than the functional blacks in our country.
And it's the same reason why Third World Countries are falling farther and farther behind the First World Countries. Third World Countries are producing more babies per couple and creating a situation where they don't have enough resources to all eat properly and can't improve the quality of their lives. So many families in these countries have five or more children to try to raise. And many of their kids before they reach adulthood.
I stopped after the bold, because a faulty premise only means a faulty conclusion. Why would dysfunctional blacks be having more children than dysfunctional whites to create such an overall gap? Higher sperm count maybe?
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no I didn't say that not even close....you refuse to read and learn from anyone who is trying to help you understand.
Like I said, I go to a church that is 75% black...and our minister talks about this all the time....poor me, pity me, I'm like this b/c of slavery....NO your not...one has to help themselves, and let go of the past....it's about today...and today could be a new start of your life.
Stop putting words in my mouth...I believe American's and black people both are sick of hearing this....so keep on smacking yourself, maybe you'll get it? Probably not...you want to hold onto racism....and blame whites for where you are not.
I'm done....that's all I have to offer.
If You say that A = B and then you say that B = C......am I putting words in your mouth if I say you are saying that A = C just because you did not explicitly say it? You cannot argue A = B...and B = C and not be saying that A = C, whether it is your intent or not.
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I both can and will. The con men that promote BS like "socioeconomic racial inequality" are doing nothing more than preying on and in some form profiting from the crap they promote. It doesn't matter if it's yourself, Al Sharpton or Barack Obama selling that to ignorant blacks (a very small subset of blacks in this nation), the KKK selling the same garbage to ignorant whites-or some socialist wannabe trying to blame business owners, "the rich" and capitalism for their failures while demanding "free chit". You are all doing exactly the same thing. Enabling failures, encouraging them not to better themselves, but to blame others. To accept failure, rather than to work, to prosper and to get ahead. To embrace irresponsible, destructive behavior, instead of effort and education. To expect others to provide for them, rather than becoming independent adults. You are preying on and enhancing the suffering of the very people you claim to try to speak for.
I do not know what type of math you are on.......but you CANNOT create an INEQUALITY from an EQUALITY, in math, without one side being treated differently than the other side. Its a mathematical LAW!!!! Hence, either blacks are not inherently equal or blacks were treated unequally....are the two options that explain why we are socioeconomically unequal. You call it race hustling, race profiting, voodoo or whatever you want.....ITS LOGIC. The fact that you cannot deal with the logic makes your motives SUSPECT.
Anytime anyone argues against one option of a binary option, they are implicitly arguing in favor of the other option. This is not rocket science logic. Blacks are in this condition, the gaps, because of EXTERNAL (things that happened to us) reasons or INTERNAL (our nature) reasons. Anyone who attacks the former is promoting the latter....and yes....that makes one racist.
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I’m old but not that old. But we are actually as much enslaved today in many ways as the colonists that fought that war! Just a different “king”. Those brave men and women would have already taken up arms again, but I digress.
The difference between you and me is that I don’t try to blame somebody else for everything that goes wrong! The other difference is that I haven’t been given the option of all the social programs that you have! LOL. Whine on!
That might be the difference between me and you....that you don't seek to blame others.....but everything happens for a REASON and every action creates a reaction. These are rules of nature. If you choose to IGNORE the source reason or cause that resulted in a reaction or condition......that does not change it from being the catalyst for the reaction....you are just choosing to ignore what caused it.....I am not.
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