Native American tribe member who killed elk to feed family asks Supreme Court to throw out poaching conviction (borders, state)
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I've spent my entire life in the rural Midwest and these sorts of stories have persisted my entire life. When our DNR checks on such things, it invariably turns out to be bunk. Fish population in spearfished and net fished lakes have never been depleted. The deer herd remains out of control with overpopulation and disease from this overpopulation. Color me highly skeptical that your state is any different.
California doesn't have the numbers to allow wide spread poaching. There are only 3000 or so deer tags for all of San Diego County which is huge. We have something like 8 different tribes.
I've spent my entire life in the rural Midwest and these sorts of stories have persisted my entire life. When our DNR checks on such things, it invariably turns out to be bunk. Fish population in spearfished and net fished lakes have never been depleted. The deer herd remains out of control with overpopulation and disease from this overpopulation. Color me highly skeptical that your state is any different.
Oh it's not bunk here and I've seen it firsthand. Off the rez it's not a problem because NDOW oversees such things. But on the rez the river has been raped and deer are fighting shy of the area. NV is a bit different than the Midwest in terms of deer population. We don't even have an overpopulation issue. Totally different deer totally different habitat. Lakes? Haha we don't have many of those. Two big ones that are actually natural with one being pretty much salt water. The latter is Pyramid Lake which is actually on a rez however that particular tribal government actually takes care of the lake and it's population of Lahonton Cuthroat trout.
Oh it's not bunk here and I've seen it firsthand. Off the rez it's not a problem because NDOW oversees such things. But on the rez the river has been raped and deer are fighting shy of the area. NV is a bit different than the Midwest in terms of deer population. We don't even have an overpopulation issue. Totally different deer totally different habitat. Lakes? Haha we don't have many of those. Two big ones that are actually natural with one being pretty much salt water. The latter is Pyramid Lake which is actually on a rez however that particular tribal government actually takes care of the lake and it's population of Lahonton Cuthroat trout.
Other reservations are not quite so responsible.
The reservations were generally the worst and least productive lands around. I'd be more surprised if there were more game on the reservations.
The reservations were generally the worst and least productive lands around. I'd be more surprised if there were more game on the reservations.
The rez that I Mentioned where things are so bad is actually pretty prime digs. It's he and has the river and a lot of good mountain territory. The Wassuk range. No non tribal people are not allowed on the mountain land. Tribal members put a LOT of pressure on the animals in the river and mountain territory. This particular rez has a lot of non caring members who just like to kill. Drug and alcohol abuse is rampant and they get tuned up and decide to just go out and just kill. Because they can.
Once pristine and really nice turf is not so much any more. There is far more game off the rez and the animals have come to realize that territory is undesirable. Year round. It's dangerous for people too. It's not even a good idea to get off the highway and into the housing areas. Not if you're non Indian and even then sometimes. This particular rez makes gang areas in the inner city's look tame.
As it's been said this case in WY is not like the place I'm describing. But I don't think many people realize how bad life is on many reservations. They haven't been there and don't know any of the tribal members. I have friends who live on that crappy rez. They aren't all bad. But they are surrounded by dangerous and substance fueled disarray. And that's just the way it is. Pretty sad.
Last edited by NVplumber; 01-10-2019 at 09:31 AM..
Poaching is poaching no matter your race or ethnicity or what you do with the meat. No one is more equal than anyone else, at least that is how it is supposed to work. He should have stayed on legal hunting grounds.
Poaching is poaching no matter your race or ethnicity or what you do with the meat. No one is more equal than anyone else, at least that is how it is supposed to work. He should have stayed on legal hunting grounds.
Poaching is poaching no matter your race or ethnicity or what you do with the meat. No one is more equal than anyone else, at least that is how it is supposed to work. He should have stayed on legal hunting grounds.
I went and read a couple write ups about this and it appears as if he has a case as to legality. It doesn't set a precedent nationwide however because treaties are specific to individual tribes. There were actually three elk killed and three people involved. I don't know about the Crow but if the tribe here were allowed to hunt and fish off the rez with impunity it would be disasterous.
I went and read a couple write ups about this and it appears as if he has a case as to legality. It doesn't set a precedent nationwide however because treaties are specific to individual tribes. There were actually three elk killed and three people involved. I don't know about the Crow but if the tribe here were allowed to hunt and fish off the rez with impunity it would be disasterous.
They shouldn't be allowed to do anything anyone else can't do outside the confines of their sovereign territory. I totally agree with you about the disastrous consequences of what some people of some nations do.
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