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Old 01-09-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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They want our money then they toe the line. Isn't that what he tells other countries.
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Old 01-09-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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We shouldn’t have to pay countries not to infest us with their citizens.
Nor should we screw them up and then abandon them

Here’s How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5596125.html
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Nor should we screw them up and then abandon them

Here’s How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5596125.html
A generally decent Huffpo recap even with the built in redactions of events like not mentioning the USSR but blaming US "Cold war policies" and of course the political whitewashing with the exception of a jab thrown at Biden (but we know why he's targeted by huffpo too.)
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:24 AM
 
Location: IL
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We are supposed to use catchy titles.

Honduras
Guatemala
El Salvador

The 3 countries within walking distance from the USA. ok make it 4 with Mexico as well.

What can trump do with those countries to stop the dire need to leave?
no one walked here from central america.

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Old 01-09-2019, 09:25 AM
 
Location: IL
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A generally decent Huffpo recap even with the built in redactions of events like not mentioning the USSR but blaming US "Cold war policies" and of course the political whitewashing with the exception of a jab thrown at Biden (but we know why he's targeted by huffpo too.)
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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The United States did all it could to rob those countries of any impending moves towards democracy and equal justice for all citizens. We spent the entire Cold War propping up dictators and suppressing freedom.

Americans have a lot of nerve to whine about the conditions of those countries at present. Everything that’s happening in those countries was bound to happen anyway.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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Often a country will provide 'aid' to other countries not as some generous act but for self serving reasons. It happens all the time.

The rebuilding of Afghanistan/Iran is not because the USA feels some moral obligation to those people - -it is because in order to try and avoid terrorist groups from taking control again, it is in the best interest to get these countries up and running and strong.

That's one example.

But it creates problems of meddling, and how much money should be spent overseas to protect the USA interests.

Voters don't see the direct impact or understand the impact of making sure that other countries provide their citizens with vaccines, or economic stability.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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no one walked here from central america.
Catch a clue there fella. With walking distance a a hook to get you here. Comprende?

(sic)

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Old 01-09-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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Sh!thole countries are no different than ghettos. They weren't designed that way...they become that way because that's how the people there have chosen to live/act. Putting those people somewhere else only destroys the place you put them. Those people will continue to live like they have always lived no matter what. It just takes a little timto see the result.
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Old 01-09-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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Sh!thole countries are no different than ghettos. They weren't designed that way...they become that way because that's how the people there have chosen to live/act. Putting those people somewhere else only destroys the place you put them. Those people will continue to live like they have always lived no matter what. It just takes a little timto see the result.
Too bad you weren't around to witness early America....hint...…..it was a chit hole with people not having any other choice but to live that way. It took good old European know-how to drag it out of the sewer.

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