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Old 01-11-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Gawd, I love Conway’s work.
He always seems to nail it in a few words.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: North America
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Yes, 90% of heroine comes from Mexico. No, the majority of it is NOT coming across with illegal immigrants. As per usual, Trump is cherry picking "facts" supporting what he wants. He's counting on people not doing their own homework.

The DEA Report is at the link below.

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/fi..._2017-NDTA.pdf

The DEA Threat assessment is at the link below

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/fi...on.pdf#page=31

The most popular mode of transport is via motor vehicle. " majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers, where the heroin is co-mingled with legal goods.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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I think he means 300 people OD every week on dope. Just a guess. Not one of Trump's more coherent tweets.
There have been coherent tweets?
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It is deplorable code.
You have to be one, to understand the message.
Kinda like reading shorthand. It takes some intelligence.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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This tweet is better:


It seems to foreshadow current events. It features a tv show from 1958 with a character with the last name of Trump trying to con the citizens into building a wall to protect them. He ultimately gets arrested.

https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/stat...40191362048000
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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300 seems to be the rough approximation of heroin overdoses each week in the US and 90% of that heroin currently coming from mexico.


but, as already pointed out in this thread from DEA data, the majority of it comes thru POE and the current proposed fence would do nothing to stop the flow ( the heroin could simply be handed thru the slats ).
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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As a few of us have pointed out, Trump's claims about the border contradict what the statistics from DEA, law enforcement, locals, etc. seem to indicate.

So he can't be believed or trusted.

He just can't.

Why doesn't he just say that the barrier is the easiest thing HE can think of to address the illegal immigration issue. Everything else is more complicated and not as tangilbe. We'd believe THAT!

In a tweet today he promises to work on the HB1 Visa system to allow more to enter based on that and then assist them on a path to citizenship.

WHAT? What is he talking about. HB1 visas aren't granted to the smartest of the smart. They are the line workers, the manufactuers of today -- spewing out code without thinking. That's what we don't need. We need a visa system to track these folks already granted visas -- who overstay and then end up vying against Americans for jobs.

The hypocrisy, contradictions, lies are beyond the normal political spin we are use to.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Who knows, he's all over the place lately.

"What is the president talking about" could probably apply to 90% of what Mushroom Donny says every time he opens his mouth
I smell the scent of desperation here lie with any of his tweets.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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Mexican heroin is actually much "safer" from a harm reduction point of view because it is/was quite crude and closer to opium (black tar or brown). The real killer is Fentanyl from China, India or anywhere else that chemists exist.

I'd bet many people don't know that many opiates are fully legal - that is, the chemists can change the chemical structure and then it's not on the banned list. These are being sold into the USA as "research chemicals".

Do Trumpies really think American chemists are ignorant? If China and India and others stop supply it, there will be plenty of Americans willing to produce batches. Also, other countries like Russia can easily make certain vast amounts are sent here - it's a great way to destroy a country from within.

The bottom line to address this particular issue - No, a wall isn't going to even slightly change the decline of the USA when it comes to our drug use.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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You are not deplorable enough.
He's talking about the drugs ( 90 %) coming in.
The 300 represents death from the drugs coming in.




Synthetic opioids are the BIGGEST killers by a mile. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BORDER OR WALLS








https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/data/fentanyl.html (28,000 deaths)
https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/data/heroin.html (15,000 deaths)

i guess it proves once again Trump is messing with the data to misrepresent it and make it seem that Mexico is responsible for all our ills.


The truth is a wall does little to reduce drugs. Most drugs are brought in through flights, ships, cars, trucks and even subs. and of course people simply carrying them ...


drugs are a demand problem not a supply one. If somehow smuggling drugs was stopped we would just see more and more grows in the US...
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