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Old 01-14-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Yeah, the thousands of impartial scientists, who study these things, saying that climate change is real and a problem are all paid to scare the bejesus out of people, for some unknown reasons. I realize education is a scary subject to many Trumpees, but believe it or not, there ARE people out there who know what they are talking about and who are simply telling us what they see.

But all of that will fall on deaf ears, won't it ?

There isn't a scientist today that would state that "climate change" isn't real. They all know that, it's just that a number of them don't agree with the CO2 cause of the warming. Most scientist say it is "water vapor" that is the major cause of the Earths warming, and not CO2.

Everyone with a brain in their head will say that the climate is changing, it has been changing for the last 11,000 years, it's been warming. If the climate was not warming the Northern Hemisphere, or at least a large part of it, would still be under miles of ice.

So yes, the Earth is warming and it will continue to warm until we slip back into another ice age and there is nothing that humans can do about it except adapt.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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There isn't a scientist today that would state that "climate change" isn't real. They all know that, it's just that a number of them don't agree with the CO2 cause of the warming. Most scientist say it is "water vapor" that is the major cause of the Earths warming, and not CO2.

Everyone with a brain in their head will say that the climate is changing, it has been changing for the last 11,000 years, it's been warming. If the climate was not warming the Northern Hemisphere, or at least a large part of it, would still be under miles of ice.

So yes, the Earth is warming and it will continue to warm until be slip back into another ice age and there is nothing that humans can do about it except adapt.
Yep, it really is that simple. There is no more to that debate than this.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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There's also very little evidence to support the latest alarms.
There's a MOUNTAIN of evidence to support the increasing negative effects of human-caused climate change. You have NO evidence to support your claim that there's "very little evidence."

The relationship between rising CO2 from fossil fuel burning and global temperatures is abundantly clear:



(image is in the public commons, source Wikipedia)

Climate change is here and it's starting to kill people. Hurricane and typhoon severity are increasing; rising sea levels inundating some coastal areas during storms; longer and more intense wildfire seasons; loss of glaciers; loss of permafrost causing sinking buildings in Alaska; coral reef death in the tropics; record heat waves; crop losses due to severe droughts.

The climate change show is just getting started. Buckle up.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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There's a MOUNTAIN of evidence to support the increasing negative effects of human-caused climate change. You have NO evidence to support your claim that there's "very little evidence."

The relationship between rising CO2 from fossil fuel burning and global temperatures is abundantly clear:



(image is in the public commons, source Wikipedia)

Climate change is here and it's starting to kill people. Hurricane and typhoon severity are increasing; rising sea levels inundating some coastal areas during storms; longer and more intense wildfire seasons; loss of glaciers; loss of permafrost causing sinking buildings in Alaska; coral reef death in the tropics; record heat waves; crop losses due to severe droughts.

The climate change show is just getting started. Buckle up.
Yes, we put CO2 into the atmosphere and so does every living creature that breathes Oxygen. With all that CO2 in the atmosphere, I think we are at 408ppm today, it still only makes up .06% of the gases in our atmosphere.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:34 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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It's always funny how the right is the first to scream and yell about some new imagined threat no matter how small, or believe in some crazy conspiracy theory, but will quickly and viciously deny any scientific findings or evidence about something when Fox news or some paid politician tells them otherwise. Congrats on being the sheep that you all are.
Seems it's unanimous. You should get a refund from the higher education you sat through.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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And how do you know this isnt from Volcanoes, and deep ocean vents where the Earth's core releases hot gasses?

How do you know if Solar activity impacts these readings?

How do you know if this has all happened before due to natural causes known or unknown over the past 5 Billion years?

We've have global warmingand cooling many times in Earth's 5B year life, and humans have only been burning fossil fuels at great rates since the indistrial reveloputin 230 years ago.

230 years of the Earth's life is like 1 second of your lifetime.

So, should we draw conclusions on 1 second in time?
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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I’ve been saying all along it’s the oceans and what is going on miles deep that drives our climate. CO2 in the atmosphere has negligible effects.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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I’ve been saying all along it’s the oceans and what is going on miles deep that drives our climate. CO2 in the atmosphere has negligible effects.
Well, if you've been saying that all along I guess we should just ignore the scientific community altogether. After all, I am sure that your PhD in Environmental Sciences, or whatever it is in, was earned at a prestigious research university and you have several peer reviewed papers on the subject.

Do us all a favor and post a link to your research articles, so that we can all learn what you seem to already know. Otherwise we are just going to continue to be misinformed by the 99% of reputable scientists who disagree with you.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:03 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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There isn't a scientist today that would state that "climate change" isn't real. They all know that, it's just that a number of them don't agree with the CO2 cause of the warming. Most scientist say it is "water vapor" that is the major cause of the Earths warming, and not CO2.

Everyone with a brain in their head will say that the climate is changing, it has been changing for the last 11,000 years, it's been warming. If the climate was not warming the Northern Hemisphere, or at least a large part of it, would still be under miles of ice.

So yes, the Earth is warming and it will continue to warm until we slip back into another ice age and there is nothing that humans can do about it except adapt.
We can convene a star-studded, expensive conclave such as Paris, Bali, Cancun, Copenhagen, Kyoto et. al. where politicians can appear grim-faced for the cameras and then party to the likes of Elton John and Bon-Jovi. And then produce a formula for more taxes, err, climate action.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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Well, if you've been saying that all along I guess we should just ignore the scientific community altogether. After all, I am sure that your PhD in Environmental Sciences, or whatever it is in, was earned at a prestigious research university and you have several peer reviewed papers on the subject.

Do us all a favor and post a link to your research articles, so that we can all learn what you seem to already know. Otherwise we are just going to continue to be misinformed by the 99% of reputable scientists who disagree with you.
They’re wrong like they’ve been many times before.
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