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If a woman beats up a guy in a movie it's just very unrealistic. If a guy beats up a woman in a movie, it's in poor taste.
They disproportionately show women as being tough in movies for the same reason they
disproportionately show black people as being clever and witty. It's just marketing to a broad audience while offending the least amount of people. While a lot of guys just roll their eyes when they see these movies with women kicking butt, they're not going to stand in front of a theater with picket signs over it the way women would
If you had a male character in a major movie beating the **** out of women right and left.
It is what it is
Even worse..., if a woman beats up a guy in a movie, it's just very unrealistic. If a guy beats up a woman in a movie, it's too realistic.
Women are built for creating new human beings and giving birth however. The radical feminists seem to hold that realization in contempt. But what is there that men can do that is more amazing in any way than that? Nothing that I can think of.
I don't know any feminists who hold their ability to give birth "in contempt," but these sorts of notions are somewhat contemptible.
Why is Hollywood obsessed with portraying women as being able to easily kick the arse of every guy they meet. It is ridiculous. Simply ridiculous. It was interesting the first time or two that I seen it. Now it is the rule.
I was a second tier athlete in high school. Yet when I played basketball or tennis against our best female athletes, the domination was absolute.
This is usually closer to what to expect if a guy fights back:
I agree...seeing a 110 pound woman defeat four 220 pound men at the same time without break a sweat is tiring. I now avoid such movies.
Another thing I find interesting..a couple years ago blacks in Hollywood complained about not receiving rolls or awards for their acting roles. Probably true.... but now you would be hard pressed go to a movie without a black lead or co-lead.
I agree...seeing a 110 pound woman defeat four 220 pound men at the same time without break a sweat is tiring. I now avoid such movies.
Another thing I find interesting..a couple years ago blacks in Hollywood complained about not receiving rolls or awards for their acting roles. Probably true.... but now you would be hard pressed go to a movie without a black lead or co-lead.
Or the fact that it's getting more and more difficult to watch a movie that does NOT have Samuel Jackson in it somewhere.
I agree...seeing a 110 pound woman defeat four 220 pound men at the same time without break a sweat is tiring. I now avoid such movies.
Another thing I find interesting..a couple years ago blacks in Hollywood complained about not receiving rolls or awards for their acting roles. Probably true.... but now you would be hard pressed go to a movie without a black lead or co-lead.
Not sure the kind of person that prefers watching movies that are entirely unrealistic, but I normally go in knowing what to expect along those lines. Still, I try to avoid the movies that you can tell from the previews or whatever that there is little plot and not much else. That's true, however, with ANY movie...
As for what we're seeing now in terms of gender, color and sexual orientation representation in the movies, again I don't have trouble seeing the likes when of course all these people ARE part of our society, and I don't really have a problem with people who are different than me as long as we respect one another's space and simply "live and let live."
Thing is though, much like we've seen in sports, there is a lot of lost time and opportunity for these folks to be made up, because not all that long ago, you didn't have ANY representation of value just about ANYWHERE if you were black, for example. How many years, for example, before blacks were even allowed to play professional sports with whites? Get good-paying prominent roles in the movies? Let alone all the rest, be allowed in the same restaurants...
Again do see the movie "Green Book."
How do you make up for all those years? I really don't know, but I'm not sure the effort to better respect and represent these people today is all that much all considered, even if sometimes overdone. All that time and history has had a profound effect on where everyone is today, even if today we're not quite as backward as we were not all that long ago, not as many of us anyway.
I am absolutely getting sick of it and I love old and new iconic lady fighters such as Princes Leia, Ellen Riply, Xena, Agent Scully, Elektra and Jessica Jones from Marvel comics and the Netflicks Marvel series, and Michone from the Walking dead.
But is is getting absurd. Look at Carol from the Walking Dead--they routinely portray a middle aged, very upper middle-aged woman at this point, besting sometime huge men in hand-to-hand combat. It is idioic at best.
Or the Star Wars series, where now not only is the new Jedi and apparently every admiral that the the good guys have female, but the men are ALL buffoons, hot-heads, cowards, or dinosaurs. Great Disney, we get the message. Men are the past. Good job. Fortunately, the movies are garbage for enterainment value, so I don't have to hang around and find out how the next one turns out.
Now I understand that the marvel Universe is about to be saved by Captain Marvel, although the character is NOT Captain Marvel, but Ms. Marvel, who, for no reason but a vagina, has been given Silver-Surfer-like power. Some of us remember the REAL Captain Mar-vell, and it might have been nice for him to make an appearance. He was a very special character who died a dignified death. Would have been nice for him to have been remembered in this new medium.
You can pretty much say that I have had enough.
they changed carol for the show her character was actually andrea from the comics who is one of ricks right hand character. She is also a terrific marksmen.
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Exactly. All fight scenes are silly. 5 bad guys on 1 good guy? The 5 take turns ineffectually running in and getting tuned up by the good guy. Always been hilarious.
So now the flavour of the week is tough women. Okey dokey. The Carol thing on The Walking Dead has made me roll my eyes for years now. I have played enough co-ed recreational adult sports to know that most men are just plain stronger and faster than most women. For anyone who watches Outlander - I liked the scene from last week where Brianne is feeling guilty for not having fought off her rapist. Jamie grabs her in a bear hug from behind and as she struggles says "What could you have done?". It was a bit rough to watch, but made the point very well!
Carols part did get a but eye rolling but no better or worse than the constant stupid decisions made by rick or Daryl. for the op watch john wick and tell me that its realistic, and while I greatly enjoy it its a movie not reality. Same as the mission impossible movies, james bond movies and so on.
I don't think anybody here has a problem with women being portrayed as badasses.
What people have a problem with is that it's become the *norm*, even on shows that don't involve people with supernatural powers. Nearly every new action show/movie has some virtuous and intelligent (preferably brown) woman beating the **** out of evil/nasty/ignorant white males as a matter of course. It's lazy, virtue-signaling writing.
This despite the undisputable facts that:
1. The vast majority of women are demonstrably weaker than the vast majority of men.
2. White men are far less likely to be violent criminals than black men... but we are the go-to demographic for criminals in cheap, boiler-plate, poorly written action shows/movies.
Is it so much to ask that entertainment bear *some* resemblance to reality? Particularly in shows that don't fit into fantasy genre?
Is it so much to ask that my own demographic not be *routinely* portrayed as evil pieces of ****? Particularly when statistics overwhelmingly show that we Evil White Males are FAR less violent than black or latino males?
Or are we supposed to just happily watch and never notice that we're being falsely portrayed as weak/evil/degenerate pieces of **** in nearly every show that comes out?
I don't think anybody here has a problem with women being portrayed as badasses.
What people have a problem with is that it's become the *norm*, even on shows that don't involve people with supernatural powers. Nearly every new action show/movie has some virtuous and intelligent (preferably brown) woman beating the **** out of evil/nasty/ignorant white males as a matter of course. It's lazy, virtue-signaling writing.
This despite the undisputable facts that:
1. The vast majority of women are demonstrably weaker than the vast majority of men.
2. White men are far less likely to be violent criminals than black men... but we are the go-to demographic for criminals in cheap, boiler-plate, poorly written action shows/movies.
Is it so much to ask that entertainment bear *some* resemblance to reality? Particularly in shows that don't fit into fantasy genre?
Is it so much to ask that my own demographic not be *routinely* portrayed as evil pieces of ****? Particularly when statistics overwhelmingly show that we Evil White Males are FAR less violent than black or latino males?
Or are we supposed to just happily watch and never notice that we're being falsely portrayed as weak/evil/degenerate pieces of **** in nearly every show that comes out?
Do you notice than in most every Hollywood movie involving a mugger with a gun, he's a white man?
When I visited New York City for the first time in 1988, I watched those white men real close.
I saw Jack Lemmon and Sandy Dennis get mugged by a white man, and then years later, a white man doing the same to Clark Kent and Lois Lane.
As for what we're seeing now in terms of gender, color and sexual orientation representation in the movies, again I don't have trouble seeing the likes when of course all these people ARE part of our society, and I don't really have a problem with people who are different than me as long as we respect one another's space and simply "live and let live."
Thing is though, much like we've seen in sports, there is a lot of lost time and opportunity for these folks to be made up, because not all that long ago, you didn't have ANY representation of value just about ANYWHERE if you were black, for example. How many years, for example, before blacks were even allowed to play professional sports with whites? Get good-paying prominent roles in the movies? Let alone all the rest, be allowed in the same restaurants...
Again do see the movie "Green Book."
How do you make up for all those years? I really don't know, but I'm not sure the effort to better respect and represent these people today is all that much all considered, even if sometimes overdone. All that time and history has had a profound effect on where everyone is today, even if today we're not quite as backward as we were not all that long ago, not as many of us anyway.
1. "Over-representation" is more like it.
2. You don't "make up for it" (at least not individual citizens...the gov't has already done too much to try to counter the past and in doing so has mistakenly trounced on other races/genders)...you try to move forward and make things better/accepted while attempting to keep race, etc. out of it. NOT by now trying to "even up" the score by favoring one race, gender, orientation while beating down or undercutting another (the most popular for a while now - white males)....and that's EXACTLY what is happening and why certain groups (again - mostly white males) are feeling disenfranchised & piled on.....wonder why Trump won?? Trying to "find" someone or a group to blame for past ills and targeting them as the villains never works....it just transfers the anger & animosity to that group or side and creates more/future problems.
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