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View Poll Results: Should the carbine be banned?
yes. 1 8.33%
yes, but only if it meets assault-weapon specifications. 0 0%
no, don't ban it at all. 11 91.67%
other (please explain below). 0 0%
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Old Today, 02:14 PM
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In a recent thread a poster who's an expert on guns pointed out that the AR-15 actually replaced a weapon called the 'M1 Carbine.'
http://www.city-data.com/forum/54067203-post16.html
Although I have heard the term 'carbine' before, I was not fully familiar with it, so I looked it up. It turns out that it is defined as a "light automatic rifle,' in other words, an assault style weapon. Yet as far as I can find out, it has never been banned, anywhere. It was not banned by the 1994 assault weapon ban signed by President Clinton.

I do know that the 'carbine' was mentioned in the theme song of the classic movie Bonnie and Clyde starring Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. Bonnie and Clyde were depression era gangsters who loved guns. A line of the song says "a half a dozen carbines opened up on them," (when they were apprehended and killed by police). Obviously the carbine is an incredibly powerful weapon that belongs in police hands only. Why is it still legal?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaVOeKLLm_c
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Old Today, 02:19 PM
 
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Travis when you are truly open to learning about guns and realizing how ridiculous gun control advocates are get back to me and we can have a true discussion
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Old Today, 02:25 PM
 
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Travis....wow...you just don't get it do you. You have absolutely zero knowledge of firearms and really should not be debating them.


Carbine refers to the length of the barrel, generally less than 20"


The M1 carbine you are referring to, is the M1 Garand, a magazine fed semi auto rifle , just like all the others that are available to the average citizen that can legally purchase them. If you feel that they are assault rifles because these were actually used by the military, unlike all the others you've talked about...that is on you, your wrong but it is your choice to be.


There were several different versions, one of them being a carbine , all semi auto by the way.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand#Design_details




The M1 Garand[SIZE=2][nb 1][/SIZE] is a .30 caliber semi-automatic rifle that was the standard U.S. service rifle during World War II and the Korean War and also saw limited service during the Vietnam War. Most M1 rifles were issued to U.S. forces, though many hundreds of thousands were also provided as foreign aid to American allies. The Garand is still used by drill teams and military honor guards. It is also widely used by civilians for hunting, target shooting, and as a military collectible.
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Old Today, 02:27 PM
 
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Travis - are you advocating for a ban of all semi automatic rifles?
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Old Today, 02:32 PM
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Travis - are you advocating for a ban of all semi automatic rifles?
I would be in favor of it, but I don't think it's politically possible at this point. We did just pass a law in Washington State declaring all semi-automatic style rifles as assault weapons, with certain restrictions put on their sale. Using this definition of 'assault weapon' really simplifies things, and makes enforcement easier for police.
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Old Today, 02:37 PM
 
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I would be in favor of it, but I don't think it's politically possible at this point. We did just pass a law in Washington State declaring all semi-automatic style rifles as assault weapons, with certain restrictions put on their sale. Using this definition of 'assault weapon' really simplifies things, and makes enforcement easier for police.
Oh, the one that your states own law enforcement said it won't enforce due to it being unconstitutional ?


A true patriot, and hopefully more will follow him.
https://www.officer.com/command-hq/n...ce-new-gun-law


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...-restrictions/
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Old Today, 02:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by scarabchuck View Post
Travis....wow...you just don't get it do you. You have absolutely zero knowledge of firearms and really should not be debating them.


Carbine refers to the length of the barrel, generally less than 20"


The M1 carbine you are referring to, is the M1 Garand, a magazine fed semi auto rifle , just like all the others that are available to the average citizen that can legally purchase them. If you feel that they are assault rifles because these were actually used by the military, unlike all the others you've talked about...that is on you, your wrong but it is your choice to be.


There were several different versions, one of them being a carbine , all semi auto by the way.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand#Design_details




The M1 Garand[SIZE=2][nb 1][/SIZE] is a .30 caliber semi-automatic rifle that was the standard U.S. service rifle during World War II and the Korean War and also saw limited service during the Vietnam War. Most M1 rifles were issued to U.S. forces, though many hundreds of thousands were also provided as foreign aid to American allies. The Garand is still used by drill teams and military honor guards. It is also widely used by civilians for hunting, target shooting, and as a military collectible.
The M1/M2 carbines do not even resemble the M1 Garand. I have used the carbine and the Garand and if you had you would know the difference.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_c..._Cal_.30.2C_M2
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Old Today, 02:38 PM
 
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Using this definition of 'assault weapon' really simplifies things, and makes enforcement easier for police.
Is every person who wears a hoodie and a cap sideways with pants so low that half their azz shows a true gangsta?
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Old Today, 02:39 PM
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Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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The M1/M2 carbines do not even resemble the M1 Garand. I have used the carbine and the Garand and if you had you would know the difference.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_c..._Cal_.30.2C_M2
I am very familiar with the M1 Grande. I would ban that one too. It's a military weapon.
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Old Today, 02:40 PM
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Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Is every person who wears a hoodie and a cap sideways with pants so low that half their azz shows a true gangsta?
huh? what does that have to do with anything? What kind of question is that?
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