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Old 02-23-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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Mueller can and should be called to testify if the report is redacted or withheld.
So if he said exactly the same thing as was in the report, you Loonies would be satisfied?


 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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So if he said exactly the same thing as was in the report, you Loonies would be satisfied?

Comprehend the part where I said redacted or withheld? The report should be made public. Who are the real loonies? It's obvious.
 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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Comprehend the part where I said redacted or withheld? The report should be made public. Who are the real loonies? It's obvious.
Yes, the real Loonies are sore losers who can't accept the results of a legal election so they tried to turn us into a banana republic by plotting to overthrow the President! I can't wait for Lindsey Graham to start the crimina referrals and the indictments to be handed out like candy. Nine will happen immediately and then about twenty more afterwards.

Of course, since you don't watch Fox News (and call Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson racists, proving you don't watch them) you will never know about the biggest scandal in political history. Years from now you will be screaming at the TV, "When will Trump be impeached?"
 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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Mueller can and should be called to testify if the report is redacted or withheld.
Agreed. He should be called to testify.
 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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"Senate Democrats were apparently caught flat-footed by this revelation, as they clearly were unfamiliar with the procedures for the DOJ's Office of Special Counsel and its legal requirements, which were adopted during the Clinton administration in the aftermath of the Ken Star Independent Counsel investigation of President Clinton."


Not surprised from the "we have to pass it, to find out what is in it crowd"!


I'd bet not a SINGLE dem read the ENTIRE OCare bill and ALL its amendments.
That quote doesn't mean what you think it does.
 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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The big takeaway from yesterday's confirmation hearings for Attorney General nominee William Barr was the disclosure that by law the final report by the Special Counsel is confidential. It cannot and will not be released.

However, it is the responsibility of the Attorney General under the procedures for the DOJ's Office of Special Counsel to summarize the findings of the Special Counsel and provide a report of that to the Congress and to the public. Barr made it clear that he wanted to release as much information from Bob Mueller's Special Counsel report as he could, as in his view it was time to get everything out there so we can move on.

For those of you who missed the hearings, here is the report from the Washington Post:

Senate Democrats were apparently caught flat-footed by this revelation, as they clearly were unfamiliar with the procedures for the DOJ's Office of Special Counsel and its legal requirements, which were adopted during the Clinton administration in the aftermath of the Ken Star Independent Counsel investigation of President Clinton.

It seems that Senate Democrats were for some reason actually expecting the confidential Mueller Report document to be released directly to the public, or at least to be provided to them, so they could leak it to the press later. But that is against the procedures for the DOJ's Office of Special Counsel, which were adopted by the DOJ under President Clinton.

While I do expect AG Barr to release as much information as he can, I also expect that anything included in the report along the lines of 'We looked into such and such and it seemed fishy, and we were troubled but in fact there is no evidence, blah, blah, blah' can reasonably be expected to be left out of the final AG's report.

And if Barr were to leave out any major findings backed up by evidence that demonstrated that Donald Trump conspired together with the Russians to steal the 2016 presidential election from Hillary Clinton, that would be truly scandalous and improper, and would in my opinion support Barr's removal from office, and if the law provides for it, worse.

snore fest.

This poster has clearly been watching too much fox or some angry youtube dude ranting nonsense...

The poster has either failed to understand/ been fooled or some such. There is NO legal REQUIREMENT to withhold anything other than sensitive information per usual.... The confusion clearly comes from there being no legal requirement to provide the report to the public.

We see this time and again on the right wing. I am not sure if it is on purpose or if RW media outlets are just completely incompetent. But time after time they get the facts wrong and it is always in their favor, well come to think of it maybe they do it deliberately...

Anyway the rule is clear, we have been here before , this is not the first SC... AG is not required to share the info with the public but is required to report to congress..

Congress can of course force the documents out into the public domain , excluding the redacted bits...

But MUELLER is also allowed to hand off whatever the hell he wants to other parts of gov both federal and state. Mueller also gets to advise on prosecutions, bring prosecutions etc....


So anyone thinking Barr can sit on this is simply new to this OR needs a refresher .
 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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snore fest.

This poster has clearly been watching too much fox or some angry youtube dude ranting nonsense...

The poster has either failed to understand/ been fooled or some such. There is NO legal REQUIREMENT to withhold anything other than sensitive information per usual.... The confusion clearly comes from there being no legal requirement to provide the report to the public.

We see this time and again on the right wing. I am not sure if it is on purpose or if RW media outlets are just completely incompetent. But time after time they get the facts wrong and it is always in their favor, well come to think of it maybe they do it deliberately...

Anyway the rule is clear, we have been here before , this is not the first SC... AG is not required to share the info with the public but is required to report to congress..

Congress can of course force the documents out into the public domain , excluding the redacted bits...

But MUELLER is also allowed to hand off whatever the hell he wants to other parts of gov both federal and state. Mueller also gets to advise on prosecutions, bring prosecutions etc....


So anyone thinking Barr can sit on this is simply new to this OR needs a refresher .
Fox and angry dudes in the Internet are like 90% of the sources used by many posters here. It's kind of unreal.
 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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Yes, the real Loonies are sore losers who can't accept the results of a legal election so they tried to turn us into a banana republic by plotting to overthrow the President! I can't wait for Lindsey Graham to start the crimina referrals and the indictments to be handed out like candy. Nine will happen immediately and then about twenty more afterwards.

Of course, since you don't watch Fox News (and call Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson racists, proving you don't watch them) you will never know about the biggest scandal in political history. Years from now you will be screaming at the TV, "When will Trump be impeached?"
You can't justify your baseless rhetoric so you spin the narrative to a different topic. Typical extreme loonie tactic!
 
Old 02-23-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Fox and angry dudes in the Internet are like 90% of the sources used by many posters here. It's kind of unreal.
Yes, don't forget Breitbart and the other extreme conspiracy theory sites and "news" sources.
 
Old 02-23-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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Yes, the real Loonies are sore losers who can't accept the results of a legal election so they tried to turn us into a banana republic by plotting to overthrow the President! I can't wait for Lindsey Graham to start the crimina referrals and the indictments to be handed out like candy. Nine will happen immediately and then about twenty more afterwards.

Of course, since you don't watch Fox News (and call Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson racists, proving you don't watch them) you will never know about the biggest scandal in political history. Years from now you will be screaming at the TV, "When will Trump be impeached?"
well i am sorry dude but you will be waiting, and you will wait just as long as you waited to see Hillary in a courtroom..


The easiest way to put this is as follows....

Republican angry voters....... CHARLIE BROWN....

Republican leadership ..... ........ LUCY...
.



R Leadership has spent about 30 years promising they will deliver the heads of Dems....
R Leadership has spent about 30 years pulling the ball away and never prosecuting a single Dem.. Thirty years endless promises of putting liberals in jail and not a single republican investigation has resulted in Dem leadership or admin being imprisoned....

Lucy does it because she can.
Rethugs do it, because to generate conflict and anger



Dems.. well we are just learning to play the "investigate " game but it is easy for us as the Rethugs have lots of real life criminals ....

thus just 2 years in and we have more folk in jail, convicted, indictments than Rethugs managed in 30 years. I am thinking we keep this up for 5 to 10 years and the only people who will be willing to run for office will honest and clean... I am thinking the liberals can clean up the republican party just by being as nasty and ruthless as the repubs have been for the last 30 years...



Pilgrim no doubt still believes it when graham or some other Rethug pretends they are going to prosecute liberals.. but given that the last couple of dozen Republican investigations have not resulted in so much as a single jail day for a liberal i am thinking Pilgrim will get nothing, just like the last 30 years of getting nothing.
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