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If anyone is to resign, it should be Donald J Trump followed by Mitch McConnell. They are the persons keeping the government shut down.
Nope.
All of them (Pelosi included) are keeping the government shut down.
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Speaker Pelosi and Democrats in both the house and senate are in favor of passing bills to reopen the government which would bypass and make border security a separate item to be resolved. Donald Trump has however indicated that he will not sign any legislation that would reopen the government if it did not contain 5.6B in funding for his wall. McConnell has stated he will not allow a vote on any bills to reopen the government unless DJT will sign them into law.
And she also could give Trump what he is seeking. If she wanted to. She chooses not to.
The argument is over what each side should do, not what they can or could do.
The way this is supposed to happen per the Constitution is: you get Congress to pass a bill and President to sign it into law (or Congress to override President’s veto).
You couldn’t do that, so you shouldn’t get your big border wall funding. Same as Dems can’t get new gun control or healthcare law passed, so they don’t get that either. Wouldn’t you agree this is the fair, Constitutional way to do these things?
Nowhere does it say in the Constitution “if you don’t get your way, then paralyze basic government functions and take the livelihoods of 800,000 families hostage.”
Why do you not respect the Constitution? Why do you not respect the Will of the People as expressed through our elected representatives?
You support un-American tactics reminiscent of a dictator like Stalin. Why do you hate our country and the Constitutional principles we’ve lived by since the days of our founding fathers?
In this particular situation, all of the players are using the tools that are at their disposal.
Mitch didn't have to change the Senate rules in order to decide what he will and won't bring to the floor, nor to have the power to do so.
Our Congress was elected with a Democratic majority for a reason. Nancy Pelosi was elected as speaker of the house. Period. The right wingnuts might be upset but oh well. We the people have spoken.
Nancy gas passed a bill to open the government with bipartisan support. The senate passed the bill before Christmas, but Trump refused to sign it. McConnell has since refused to allow any of the house bills to the senate floor for a vote since. That's a fact. McConnell and Trump are not respecting the process by refusing to allow any votes to come to the floor because of Trump's vanity wall that caters to the low information base that want it. This is not how government is supposed to work. It's reprehensible, irresponsible, and this shut down is owned by Trump who bragged that he was proud to do it, and McConnell for being a boot licking, feckless toadie.
The non bolded is true, but the bolded is your opinion. McConnell is acting within current Senate rules in this situation. If people don't like it, campaign for Democrats in 2020 for seats currently in the hands of Republicans in order to flip the majority.
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Should Pelosi step down after only a couple of weeks? Oh H no. She is doing what the constituents elected Congress to do.
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The wall is unpopular and viewed as a waste of taxpayer dollars by the majority of the people who elected this new Congress.
I think there are probably a number of people who actually aren't against the wall, they just say that they are because of resentment toward Trump for being 'a/the PG'....and those people are certainly within their rights. Trump's being 'a/the PG' is despicable.
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Presidents don't always get their way and rightfully so. They are not dictators, they work for us.
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Trump will never be a president for all people, he will only be a president for a shrinking minority. It's untenable. His sinking poll numbers are a reflection of that.
Any voter who is tired of the nonsense of shutting down the government should be rooting for team Pelosi. Her position is simple and if the GOP wants to come out of this alive they have to find a way to get the Government up an running before negotiations begin. If Pelosi wins this show down it could set a precedent and shutting down the government may not ever be used as a negotiating ploy again. The GOP forgot to factor in that they have a tyrant in office.
hmm, apparently the Drumpf family has changed their name again. President Thump - it works well because he will be getting severely thumped by Bob Mueller and the House Intel committee very soon.
I'm good with a President Thump as that is what he does to the anti-Trumps daily.
You are betting on tomorrow and every new day has one so it never arrives. Trump might well finish a second term before Mueller is finished. If Mueller keeps looking until he finds Russian collusion connected to Trump he will die and the job unfinished.
All of them (Pelosi included) are keeping the government shut down.
And she also could give Trump what he is seeking. If she wanted to. She chooses not to.
The argument is over what each side should do, not what they can or could do.
Her constituents voted for her to not give Trump what he wanted. The Democrats are putting forth an effort to compromise but Trump and/or the GOP are the ones rejecting it.
Should Pelosi resign after failing in leadership and failing to do her job working for the people.
Personally I don't like her, but she is doing exactly what she was elected to do.
Trump is demanding 10% of what he needs to build a wall, so if he is given the 10%, he will repeat the cycle and demand the next 10%, and so forth. It'll never end. It would be easier to get the money from Mexico than from Congress especially when he specifically said MX would pay for it.
I'd be OK with her resignation if and only if, Trump resigns first.
That kind of compromise should satisfy both sides, but will Trump compromise?
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I haven't seen that in a thread in a while.
