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Old 01-18-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Just a sad story that might have ended worse if the employee had not been armed.



Would have ended a lot better if bad guy with gun didn't have a gun in the first place.
Everyone would still be alive and it would just be a story about an argument in an IHOP.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Bad guys are going to get guns by hook or by crook...it's a great thing this hero was carrying. Very sad that he lost his father.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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I suppose the NRA looks at this as a positive, after all a bad guy got shot down. I look at as a failure. An IHOP was terrorized with a gun battle, two people are dead and another in the hospital, all due to prevalence and encouragement to carry handguns.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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I suppose the NRA looks at this as a positive, after all a bad guy got shot down. I look at as a failure. An IHOP was terrorized with a gun battle, two people are dead and another in the hospital, all due to prevalence and encouragement to carry handguns.
Bad guys have carried guns since the old west. Good guys need to protect themselves.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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Bad guys are going to get guns by hook or by crook...it's a great thing this hero was carrying. Very sad that he lost his father.
Very sad that anyone was shot.
Anyone can get a gun by hook or crook, good or bad.
What makes you think that the 'good guy' was a 'good guy'?
He's a hero because he shot someone?
You can come up with all the imaginary scenarios you want.
Bad guys get guns... good guys get guns...bad guys shoot good guys... good guys shoot bad guys.
At the end of the day three people were shot and the best case scenario would have been that nobody had a gun in the first place.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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Would have ended a lot better if bad guy with gun didn't have a gun in the first place.
Everyone would still be alive and it would just be a story about an argument in an IHOP.
It's incredible you really think that. You are not in touch with reality if you think you can keep guns out of the hands of bad guys.

Ridiculous. Whatever happened to logic?

Since the bad guy did indeed have gun (surprise!), the good guy with a gun saved numerous lives. Maybe dozens. The people who cannot see that have purposely blinded themselves to reality.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Very sad that anyone was shot.
Anyone can get a gun by hook or crook, good or bad.
What makes you think that the 'good guy' was a 'good guy'?
He's a hero because he shot someone?
You can come up with all the imaginary scenarios you want.
Bad guys get guns... good guys get guns...bad guys shoot good guys... good guys shoot bad guys.
At the end of the day three people were shot and the best case scenario would have been that nobody had a gun in the first place.
Ask the diners and employees if the young man who killed the animal is a hero...I wonder what they'd say?
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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without knowing the background on this story why are people assuming "good" guy "bad" guy etc..etc.


it sounds like a personal grievance that got blown out of hand because guns were there period!


because we are overloaded with guns means "we" have to accept them is the argument..


the second amendment and all...i personally think i need a large cannon to defend myself..why cant i get one immediately!


could it be those pesky gun control people?
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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It's incredible you really think that. You are not in touch with reality if you think you can keep guns out of the hands of bad guys.

Ridiculous. Whatever happened to logic?

Since the bad guy did indeed have gun (surprise!), the good guy with a gun saved numerous lives. Maybe dozens. The people who cannot see that have purposely blinded themselves to reality.

What's so incredible about it?

How do you know the good guy saved numerous lives?
How do you know what was going to happen next?

You don't. You're just imagining what might have happened.
Other countries are perfectly able to get by without multiple gun deaths every 5 minutes. Imagine that!
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Sadly, the shooter killed the father of the man who killed him. This happened in my hometown at the IHOP I used to take my daughter to.

Huntsville IHOP shooter kills employee, is killed by victim
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Police say it stared [sic]when 25-year-old Roderick Turner went to IHOP to pick up a carryout order. He reportedly became disruptive and loud regarding the service, which lead to a verbal then physical altercation with another IHOP employee. Turner then pulled out a handgun and started firing at employees, striking two employees.
All that over a stack of pancakes? IHOP isn't that good.
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