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Old 01-20-2019, 10:45 AM
 
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I generally lean to the right on most issues, but I actually don't believe Obama was a bad President. He certainly wasn't the worst one we've had.

The economy was in horrible shape when Obama entered office, but it improved greatly during his term in the White House. I listen to talk radio a lot and they love to bring up how well the stock market has done since Trump took office, but yet they don't mention how it skyrocketed during Obama's Presidency.

Also, I don't believe Obamacare is a bad thing. People with pre-existing conditions can now get coverage and subsidies allow poorer Americans to get coverage. Personally, I don't mind paying higher premiums for that.

The successful Bin Laden mission happened during Obama's term, as well as thawing of our relationship with Cuba.

I just don't understand how he was a horrible President.
He wasn't.... the right has just become more deranged as time has gone up, particularly in the current MAGA era. Former McCain/Romney voter who is a straight-ticket democrat voter for now until the Moron-in-chief is impeached or elected out.
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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Like every racist would say. If you look through the lens of racism, everything is racist.
I’m looking through the Republican lense.
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Obama wore blackface but he was black enough to get away with it while doing the bidding of whitey Wall St. types.
Nonsense. If he was working in the interests of wealthy whites, you wouldn’t hate him so much. You’d love him.

Strange, since you’re not wealthy.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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Obama wore blackface but he was black enough to get away with it while doing the bidding of whitey Wall St. types.
Pretty sure wall st is paying less taxes now than they were under Obama
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Blue Wave View Post
I generally lean to the right on most issues, but I actually don't believe Obama was a bad President. He certainly wasn't the worst one we've had.

The economy was in horrible shape when Obama entered office, but it improved greatly during his term in the White House. I listen to talk radio a lot and they love to bring up how well the stock market has done since Trump took office, but yet they don't mention how it skyrocketed during Obama's Presidency.

Also, I don't believe Obamacare is a bad thing. People with pre-existing conditions can now get coverage and subsidies allow poorer Americans to get coverage. Personally, I don't mind paying higher premiums for that.

The successful Bin Laden mission happened during Obama's term, as well as thawing of our relationship with Cuba.

I just don't understand how he was a horrible President.
First of all Republicans think he's bad for 2 reasons. He's a Democrat and he's black. I doubt you would find many Repugs who would share your sentiment. But I hated Bush Jr and Trump is so bad all other Presidents in my lifetime are great in comparison.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:25 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Pretty sure wall st is paying less taxes now than they were under Obama
But the actual people on Wall Street have rather luxurious homes and second/third homes. With those go property taxes, that are effectively no longer deductible. Courtesy of Trump.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:46 PM
 
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I liked Obama enough to vote for him the first go around but he fell out of favor the second. I think Obama was a decent enough President. He did some good things and some not so good for the country just like every President before him and just as Trump is doing now if the Democrats would get off his back and give him an inch of credit.



What I didn't like about Obama was how he divided the country along race lines, reached out far more then he should have to help Muslims here and abroad and how he gave illegal aliens a voice and his ear. At times it seemed that he did not even like America and couldn't help himself in making apologies and excuses for it. He did tell us that he was going to "fundamentally change America" and he was well on his way to doing that.



The best thing that Obama ever did was give us Trump and that was a direct result of his failed and questionable policies that put America in the back seat and with Hillary promising more of the same America should be thankful that enough people took a chance on Trump.
I didn’t vote for Obama either time. I was very impressed with his Key Note Address the first time any of us heard about him. It became clear that he was a Race Baiter during his campaign in 2008 ... the attacks on the Clintons. We learned more about his background and how much of it was suddenly “sealed”. I never could figure out how a man that was broke,in debt & forced to leave a DNC Convention because his credit cards were declined ... was a US Senator and running for President less than 10 years later.

I think Obama accomplished one thing .... he united the Mis-East Leadership with Israel & against Iran.
Obama’s support for Iran, Hezbollah and the Muslim Brothers shocked all of them (exception Qatar of course).
Down the road ... that will be a good thing.
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Old 01-20-2019, 06:48 PM
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Location: On the Border
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The best thing that Obama ever did was give us Trump and that was a direct result of his failed and questionable policies that put America in the back seat and with Hillary promising more of the same America should be thankful that enough people took a chance on Trump.
If Obama could have run again (not that I wanted him to) he would have trounced Trump. Hands down.
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Old 01-20-2019, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Full time in the RV
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Aside from he being a despicable socialist willing to murder millions of Americans, he is a cool guy.
What are you talking about?
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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OP must not be convinced of what she wrote since she has not come back since post #1.
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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Good listing. You left out the apology press conference on April 4, 2009 (link), where Obama famously said "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism." That was the point where I decided that Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution applied to certain of his actions.
You're right I did. I had forgotten about that one. There's a number of reasons Obama was a bad president, but his pick for attorney general puts him somewhere between James Buchanan and Warren Harding. Like Obama, there are plenty of reasons Eric Holder is one of the worst AG's in history.

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Even we were shocked at the extent to which Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. has politicized the Justice Department and put the interests of left-wing ideology and his political party ahead of the fair and impartial administration of justice.
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As a longtime, current employee of the Justice Department told us, Holder and his subordinates have “racialized and radicalized” the department “to the point of corruption.” They have “embedded politically leftist extremists in the career ranks who have an agenda that does not comport with equal protection or the rule of law; who believe that the ends justify the means; and who behave unprofessionally and unethically. Their policy is to intimidate and threaten employees who do not agree with their politics, and even moderate Democrats have left the department, because they were treated as enemies by administration officials and their lackeys. Another black employee who has worked for the Justice Department for decades said to me, ‘There is no justice left in Justice under this administration.’”
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Holder is an ideologue who considers himself part of Mr. Obama’s political team first and the attorney general a very distant second. His first loyalty has been to helping the president break, bend, ignore or fail to enforce the law, doing untold damage to our constitutional system and the rule of law. As former Justice Department prosecutor Andy McCarthy has said, the Justice Department under Holder has become “a sort of full-employment program for progressive activists, race-obsessed bean counters and lawyers who volunteered their services during the Bush years to help al Qaeda operatives file lawsuits against the United States.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...f-eric-holder/

http://https://www.frontpagemag.com/...ets/Holder.pdf
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