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Old 04-10-2008, 07:21 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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its easy to see progress in Iraq. all we have to do is have some DC politicans/lawyers define "what is progress" and we can concede that there is lots of it.
I would guess that for DOD, Iraq is the most progressive thing that has happened since the Gulf War.


Even that's getting more complicated, now we're going to need the BushSpeak Decoder Ring to decipher the difference between 'progress' and 'fragile progress'
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:09 AM
 
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I was beginning to wonder if Gen. Petraeus was going to have to check the regulations on "don't ask-don't tell" after the oral sex that Lieberman gave him. Between that and having Cheney's hand up his butt I don't know how the guy can have any self-respect.

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Old 04-10-2008, 08:23 AM
 
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I was beginning to wonder if Gen. Petraeus was going to have to check the regulations on "don't ask-don't tell" after the oral sex that Lieberman gave him. Between that and having Cheney's hand up his butt I don't know how the guy can have any self-respect.

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Sounds like another Democrat upset that Lieberman is happpy to stick it to the party after their failed attempt to backdoor him out of the Senate.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:28 AM
 
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Sounds like another Democrat upset that Lieberman is happpy to stick it to the party after their failed attempt to backdoor him out of the Senate.


Your OP says Lieberman said "despite all of the US Senate complaining about the progress ".

Has the meaning of "all" been changed to be "the Democrats"?
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:36 AM
 
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Your OP says Lieberman said "despite all of the US Senate complaining about the progress ".

Has the meaning of "all" been changed to be "the Democrats"?
Nope - two seperate topics. Lieberman has been sticking it to the Dems on many issues, the biggest one being his support for McCain. Though, when he said "all of Congress," I am sure that he was implying "the Domocratic led Congress."
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:53 AM
 
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Nope - two seperate topics. Lieberman has been sticking it to the Dems on many issues, the biggest one being his support for McCain. Though, when he said "all of Congress," I am sure that he was implying "the Domocratic led Congress."


Gee, I guess I just don't have your amazing mind-reading power to be sure of what anyone is saying, I guess you have the decoder ring

And I hardly think supporting one candidate vs. another is 'sticking it' to anyone, it's usually known as making a choice. But you'd have to be quite naive to start tossing partisan mud across the aisle and not expect it to be tossed back at you.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:15 AM
 
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Gee, I guess I just don't have your amazing mind-reading power to be sure of what anyone is saying, I guess you have the decoder ring

And I hardly think supporting one candidate vs. another is 'sticking it' to anyone, it's usually known as making a choice. But you'd have to be quite naive to start tossing partisan mud across the aisle and not expect it to be tossed back at you.

I probably do read too much into things, but I think that is what happens when one spends way too much time watching news and CSPAN and lives inside the beltway where even social events eat, breathe, and sleep politics.

I know if I was a longtime Democrat that got blindsided by the party for splitting with them on one issue (though, a major one), I would be out for blood. Based off what I've seen since he beat them at their own game and got re-elected as an independent, it seems like that is what he is doing.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:29 AM
 
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I know if I was a longtime Democrat that got blindsided by the party for splitting with them on one issue (though, a major one), I would be out for blood. Based off what I've seen since he beat them at their own game and got re-elected as an independent, it seems like that is what he is doing.


This I agree with, I thought his treatment from the Democrats was below that of arguing 6 year olds but I guess that's to be expected in the modern political world

But I think his whining about the Iraq hearings is nothing more than another politician expressing his personal bias, rhyme or reason being optional.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:18 AM
 
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The only thing I got from that hearing is that GWB will not have created a single democracy in the Middle East, nor will he have gotten OBL and those were his big foreign policy goals post 9-11. As I work as a civilian for the DOD, my job is secure.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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What's Lieberman's track record about predicting future events in Iraq again?

For a fun little exercise, go back through some news archives where Joe talks about Iraq, and find out how often his predictions and analysis on Iraq end up being completely and totally wrong. Then ask yourself why you should still give a damn what he has to say.
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