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Old 02-01-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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What don't you get about the fact that it is a living human being?
So are the children of undocumented people in this country (or "illegals" as some people like to refer to them). You must do a lot of work helping them, seeing how passionate you are about children. Would you like to share some of your good deeds helping these children who are separated from their parents at the border? It's such a heartbreaking situation.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:27 AM
 
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Sorry but all this law did was make it easier to perform abortions in the last 3 months of pregnancy. It was already legal. I want to know how much of a problem it was to justify the "need" to make it easier. People are rightly worried about abusing the law to allow abortions in the last trimester for questionable reasons.

Please read the article. It was not already legal.

If you read the article it might answer your question about how much a problem it was.

And if you actually read and think about this, you might actually want to consider that a woman who chose to continue a pregnancy for six months, has been preparing for a child, doesn't just change her mind during the third trimester. WHY would a woman suddenly decide for an abortion in the third trimester????

WHY???

https://rewire.news/article/2017/05/...gnancies-term/
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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Here's an analogy for you: Amputation is a legal medical procedure. Could you walk into a hospital right now, ask to have your arm amputated and find a health practitioner willing to perform this surgery?
This is a terrible analogy because an arm is not a life. Anyone asking to have an arm amputated unnecessarily likely needs other medical/psychological care.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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Because all women do NOT die from childbirth. It is a natural process. You are trying create a narrative that childbirth is a sure fire cause of death.

For a woman to be allowed to birth the baby, then decide to kill it tells you that her physical life is not in danger.

Open your eyes people.

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Old 02-01-2019, 10:31 AM
 
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No that isn't all I need to know. Tragic things happen every day and I am sorry for those people. Abortions in the last trimester should be difficult to have performed.
Do you think a third-trimester abortion is a cakewalk???? Do you think it's an in-and-out procedure? Do you think it doesn't cost $25,000 - $30,000????? Third-trimester abortions are extremely difficult. All the NY law does is make it possible for a woman who lives in NY to have the procedure done in NY. Rather than travel out of state.

Read the article.

https://rewire.news/article/2017/05/...gnancies-term/
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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Can anything be More Evil----


Than a con man in the white house?
Yes, killing babies.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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What don't you get about the fact that it is a living human being? If not, it would not need to be aborted. It wouldn't grow.

When did being emotional about killing a baby become a bad thing? When the universities indoctrinated people with scientific "facts" that created robotic, unfeeling ability to shut down one's emotions so that one can carry out ending the life of an unborn human?

Think about it. It is a human being. A person. Their life is being taken from them. They will never be born and live to choose anything.

People value a dog's life more than a baby's life these days. Unless it is the life of a woman that is. Then they will get all emotional about that.

If not being PC and sugarcoating the truth about the fact that it is a human life that is being aborted pushes people away then they don't want the truth.

The cowardice of people, Christian or not, to speak out vehemently against this since the beginning is why abortion has become so prevalent.
What do you not get about the fact that some fetuses are not viable? They may not be able to breathe, they may not have a brain, they may be missing key organs, they may a condition that causes all their organs to fail, they cannot sustain life. Oh, the horror of a parent not wanting a baby to SUFFER. That evil parent!
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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All you really need to know is that it DOES happen. Why isn't ONE woman's life enough reason for the law?
There are tragic stories of women who helped to perform abortions who regret it now. They tell stories of the atrocities of how the babies suffered. Left in waste bins to die.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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Because all women do NOT die from childbirth. It is a natural process. You are trying create a narrative that childbirth is a sure fire cause of death.

For a woman to be allowed to birth the baby, then decide to kill it tells you that her physical life is not in danger.

Open your eyes people.
I think you may have intended this reply to another post, because that doesn't have anything to do with what I said.

But while we're on the subject, childbirth may be natural.but it's very difficult on the woman and very risky, especially without proper medical attention (which is expensive in the US).

Just look at historic maternal mortality rates, or even today in many undeveloped countries.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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Please read the article. It was not already legal.

If you read the article it might answer your question about how much a problem it was.

And if you actually read and think about this, you might actually want to consider that a woman who chose to continue a pregnancy for six months, has been preparing for a child, doesn't just change her mind during the third trimester. WHY would a woman suddenly decide for an abortion in the third trimester????

WHY???

https://rewire.news/article/2017/05/...gnancies-term/
These cases are definitely sad for the families. But people like me, who do are not anti all abortion per se, still have reservations regarding misuse and the path to abortion on demand up to delivery. If you write everyone off as attempting to dictate to other women then the conversation goes nowhere.
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