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Old 01-23-2019, 09:51 AM
 
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When those of you on the left can actually point to some actual proof, and not just present rumors, false assumptions, and your conspiracy theories, which are nothing but wishful thinking on your part, then people wouldn't ridicule you so much.

Just because your low opinion of Trump drives you to think he might be capable of doing X, Y or Z, does not mean he has done so, or that he has ever desired to do so.
Nobody has any actual proof....YET. A Special Counsel has been assigned to investigate Trump, and that investigation is still ongoing.

And like any ongoing investigation, the investigators are not releasing any information until their work is concluded and they've produced a final report.

So no, nobody knows of any hard, tangible evidence of Russian collusion...YET. You are well aware of that though. You're just being disingenuous...on purpose.


No Trump supporters can claim they know, without a doubt, that Trump is innocent. No Trump haters can claim they know, without a doubt, that Trump is guilty. Because none of us have access to the classified e-mails, text messages, letters, bank statements, and testimony that Mueller has seen.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Trumpville
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When Trump announced our withdrawal from Syria, a talented Secretary of Defense resigned.


Now this: https://www.rferl.org/a/us-house-vot.../29725853.html


Is Fox News soft pedaling these important policy decisions so much that you can ignore them or are you all just testadura (stupidly thick headed)?
The issue is that most of them don't care even if it were true. In fact there is a lot of admiration of Putin from the right. They like his authoritarian, right wing governing style and enforcement of "traditional values."
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The issue is that most of them don't care even if it were true. In fact there is a lot of admiration of Putin from the right. They like his authoritarian, right wing governing style and enforcement of "traditional values."
Sad but true...and fortunately a rather small and shrinking segment of the US.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I guess Putin wants us to have more guns, a border wall, lower taxes, lower unemployment, an increased GDP, SCJs that uphold the constitution, and peace with North Korea. Maybe we should have elected him instead.

Yes, all of those things, but most importantly, he wants to witness a US military build-up and increased US petroleum exports to Europe.

He is a mad man after all!

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_mov...X_mbblpd_a.htm

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Old 01-23-2019, 10:49 AM
 
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What does it Take for you Republicans to Realize That Trump is Owned by the Russians?

They know it, it's right there in front of them, they just can not admit it. Mis-placed pride.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Nobody has any actual proof....YET. A Special Counsel has been assigned to investigate Trump, and that investigation is still ongoing.

And like any ongoing investigation, the investigators are not releasing any information until their work is concluded and they've produced a final report.

So no, nobody knows of any hard, tangible evidence of Russian collusion...YET. You are well aware of that though. You're just being disingenuous...on purpose.


No Trump supporters can claim they know, without a doubt, that Trump is innocent. No Trump haters can claim they know, without a doubt, that Trump is guilty. Because none of us have access to the classified e-mails, text messages, letters, bank statements, and testimony that Mueller has seen.



You are so right that no one has actual proof... YET and even after 2 years of non stop investigations by a team led by Democrats what have they found? Who knows?



Do we even know if a crime was committed? Does it even matter to the Left?



In most cases there has to be a clear cut crime committed to warrant an investigation where evidence is gathered to support the charges of a crime but in this case with Trump/ Russia the Dems tell us there is collusion and they have been searching for 2 years to try and find evidence to support their theory that a crime was committed. It is all so backwards but Trump has to be guilty of something because how else could he have won?



He is Guilty before being proven Innocent.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Guess I'm a bit old fashioned. I prefer evidence over accusations.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Russia, according to leftists
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Guess I'm a bit old fashioned. I prefer evidence over accusations.
I think it's become clear this that democrats treat media speculation and opinion as fact. They just proved it over the last two weeks. Facts and evidence mean absolutely nothing to them.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Trumpville
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Sad but true...and fortunately a rather small and shrinking segment of the US.
But a very vocal segment and one that is mobilized enough to win elections despite being a minority ideology.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You are so right that no one has actual proof... YET and even after 2 years of non stop investigations by a team led by Democrats what have they found? Who knows?



Do we even know if a crime was committed? Does it even matter to the Left?



In most cases there has to be a clear cut crime committed to warrant an investigation where evidence is gathered to support the charges of a crime but in this case with Trump/ Russia the Dems tell us there is collusion and they have been searching for 2 years to try and find evidence to support their theory that a crime was committed. It is all so backwards but Trump has to be guilty of something because how else could he have won?



He is Guilty before being proven Innocent.
No...not really. Here is a crime where indictments have been issued

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1K32X1

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U.S. indictments show technical evidence for Russian hacking accusations

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - U.S. indictments against a dozen Russian intelligence officers on Friday provided detailed technical evidence to back up allegations of Russian hacking and leaking of information to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
Now the question is...was Trump and his team in on this? If they were that is conspiracy...which is a crime. Hopefully the pending investigation will be able to answer this question.
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