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Old Yesterday, 05:40 PM
 
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We're talking Birfers. Recognizing the obvious is not a common trait.
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Old Yesterday, 10:24 PM
 
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obama was born in honolulu HI, USA.
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Huh?

Hawaii was a state when Obama was born.
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Obama was born in Hawaii.

there is still a question of where obama was actually born, there is evidence to support both sides of the argument. but as i have noted many times in the past, obama was born to a US citizen, and that makes him a natural born US citizen whether he was born in hawaii, or whether he was born in kenya.
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Old Yesterday, 10:41 PM
 
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She was born in the state of California. Her parents' status is irrelevant. This seems pretty obvious.
To Americans that live in a fact-based world, yes. Harris way born in Oakland, that's all that matters.

But I'm sure the same low IQ people who believed the Obama birther lie (Donald Trump admitted on television it was false) will also buy into and push this false Harris birther crap.

The type of people who support Donald Trump love smearing minorities in any way they can.
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Old Yesterday, 10:55 PM
 
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there is still a question of where obama was actually born, there is evidence to support both sides of the argument. but as i have noted many times in the past, obama was born to a US citizen, and that makes him a natural born US citizen whether he was born in hawaii, or whether he was born in kenya.
No, there is not.

Birthers.
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Old Yesterday, 10:59 PM
 
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John McCain had several lawyers from his campaign look into this in 2008. The lawyers concluded that it would have been difficult for Obama to go back in time to place his birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper in 1961.
There are also people who claim John McCain was ineligible because he was born in Panama,the fact that it was to a US Navy Admiral on a US Military base is irrelevant to them.

I'm sure they will be on here tying themselves in knots about Tulsi Gabbard too since she was born in American Samoa,a US territory,not a state.

Even if John McCain,George Romney,Mitt Romney,Barry Goldwater,Ted Cruz,Spiro Agnew,Barak Obama,Kamala Harris etc were all found to be OK by the Supreme Court in a unanimous decision .the 'usual suspects' will still come on here and just scream the court is wrong.
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Old Yesterday, 11:12 PM
 
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there is still a question of where obama was actually born,....

no, there isn't. any legitimate question died in october 2008 when the HI department of health confirmed the facts of obama's birth.



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there is evidence to support both sides of the argument.

the evidence supporting obama's birth:


* 1961 birth index ( open to the public )
* contemporaneous birth announcements ( available on microfilm in multiple libraries across the US including the library of congress )

* the certificate of live birth ( COLB )
* confirmation from 3 HI directors of health

* the "long-form" birth certificate ( LFBC )





what evidence do you believe contradicts all that?
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Old Today, 01:42 AM
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There are also people who claim John McCain was ineligible because he was born in Panama,the fact that it was to a US Navy Admiral on a US Military base is irrelevant to them.

I'm sure they will be on here tying themselves in knots about Tulsi Gabbard too since she was born in American Samoa,a US territory,not a state.

Even if John McCain,George Romney,Mitt Romney,Barry Goldwater,Ted Cruz,Spiro Agnew,Barak Obama,Kamala Harris etc were all found to be OK by the Supreme Court in a unanimous decision .the 'usual suspects' will still come on here and just scream the court is wrong.
Unfortunately, you got that right.

It's gonna be a "feature" of certain campaigns from here on out. Because Monday morning quarterbacking is just SO much fun for people who can't actually play the game.
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Old Today, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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there is still a question of where obama was actually born, there is evidence to support both sides of the argument. but as i have noted many times in the past, obama was born to a US citizen, and that makes him a natural born US citizen whether he was born in hawaii, or whether he was born in kenya.
No there isn't
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Old Today, 02:57 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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There are also people who claim John McCain was ineligible because he was born in Panama,the fact that it was to a US Navy Admiral on a US Military base is irrelevant to them.

I'm sure they will be on here tying themselves in knots about Tulsi Gabbard too since she was born in American Samoa,a US territory,not a state.

Even if John McCain,George Romney,Mitt Romney,Barry Goldwater,Ted Cruz,Spiro Agnew,Barak Obama,Kamala Harris etc were all found to be OK by the Supreme Court in a unanimous decision .the 'usual suspects' will still come on here and just scream the court is wrong.
Now I know that George Romney was born in Mexico (but to 2 US Citizen parents); but Mitt was born in the US
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Old Today, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Judging from the conspiracy tales already being posted, guess the GOP sees Kamala Harris as the one to beat.

A good rule of thumb would be to assume that whichever democratic candidate is slandered the most by republicans, will be the one most likely to win. Democrats could let the Republicans choose their nominee for them in that way and have an advantage.
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