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Old Yesterday, 03:56 PM
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They arenít so much socialist as communists. I donít know why so many communist countries call
Themselves ď socialistĒ they arenít.

Started as socialist and morphed into a dictatorship. Bottom-line is that socialism doesn't work, ever. Period.
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Old Yesterday, 03:57 PM
 
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He wants Maduro gone, and to build a right wing alliance across Latin America.
so? millions want maduro gone. are they 'partly to blame' as well?

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Edit: Chavez is dead.
yeah, i know

does he get any blame for the messed up state of affairs in Venezuela in your opinion?
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Old Yesterday, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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so? millions want maduro gone. are they 'partly to blame' as well?



yeah, i know

does he get any blame for the messed up state of affairs in Venezuela in your opinion?
1. Do they want to build a far right governing alliance?

2. Things should have been changed from his presidency.

But right now it is the job of those in power to do something.
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Old Yesterday, 04:04 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Socialism in Venezuela has been a disaster.
Socialism has failed everywhere its tried. Venezuela is in turmoil on all fronts. The economy, death toll from gov. killing protestors, and more than 3 million have left with what they could carry.
All Americans in the country have been told to get out.

And none of our business!
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Old Yesterday, 04:05 PM
 
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I pretty much knew Maduro's days were numbered when he pickled Chavez and put the corpse on display!
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Old Yesterday, 04:08 PM
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Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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so? millions want maduro gone. are they 'partly to blame' as well?



yeah, i know

does he get any blame for the messed up state of affairs in Venezuela in your opinion?
Chavez died in 2013, just around the time when things had started to go off the rails, and the diaspora from Venezuela had started. He gets some blame, but then there is no way to tell what he might have done had he lived.
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Old Yesterday, 04:13 PM
 
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Do we have an obligation to help?

I think so. Does anyone want to see a caravan of 100,000 Venezuelans coming our way to test our borders and claiming asylum?

Let's help them where they are.



Boy do we need a wall and immigration reform.
Do ďWEĒ have an obligation? What the hell? We? You speak French or something? WE donít have an obligation to do a damn thing but mind our own business.

Iíve never met a person that can swim from Venezuela to here so donít use that as an excuse to be a warmonger. There are several South American nations they can seek relief in.

This is not a matter for the United States to intervene in.
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Old Yesterday, 04:19 PM
 
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1. Do they want to build a far right governing alliance?

2. Things should have been changed from his presidency.

But right now it is the job of those in power to do something.
so you can't or won't give a direct answer to either question.

meanwhile..

Venezuelan protesters burn Hugo Chavez statue in Bolivar
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Old Yesterday, 04:20 PM
 
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We will never learn.
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Old Yesterday, 04:24 PM
 
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Do ďWEĒ have an obligation? What the hell? We? You speak French or something? WE donít have an obligation to do a damn thing but mind our own business.

Iíve never met a person that can swim from Venezuela to here so donít use that as an excuse to be a warmonger. There are several South American nations they can seek relief in.

This is not a matter for the United States to intervene in.
This right here. Not our problem, not our fault. Lets not make it either.
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